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Old 07-13-2007, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ron Paul for President

Congressman Ron Paul is the only candidate who is candid and that is why the media and his party don't want him to win. We must have a grassroots effort on the web to get him elected. In fact every Democrat and Independent should switch to the Republican Party to support him in the primary. He speaks to our needs even better than anyone running for President.

The only way to change is if we take action. Everyone else running is the status quo. We must end the Patriot Act, high taxes, wasteful government spending, and corruption in government and Ron Paul is the only one who will take that one. He is not beholden to any special interests.

If you are not voting for Ron Paul, where does your candidate stand on each of these issues. The Republicans when in power showed they spend money like Democrats and the Democrats have supported civil liberty infringement like Republicans so there really is no difference between the parties with perhaps social issues being an exception.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Funny thing is that most of the 'social issues' that the Republicrats differ on are wedge issues, like flag burning and Gay Marriage.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This would be the first election in a while where there is a candidate that I actually like, Ron Paul being that candidate.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, Ron Paul embraces a neo-isolationist foreign policy. Such a policy would lead the U.S. to abandon critical overseas interests, would radically alter the world's balance of power by withdrawing the U.S. from engagement, and undermine important U.S. relationships i.e., with NATO allies, etc. At the same time, it would not enhance U.S. security. In fact, the previous experience with isolationism prior to World War II proved to be a catastrophic failure.

In addition, he has a peculiar interpretation of the Constitution that would deny the President foreign policymaking authority and, in effect, pose the threat of paralyzing the nation's capacity to make foreign policy. For example, in one of his essays, Paul wrote:

I have written before about the critical need for Congress to reassert its authority over foreign policy, and for the American people to recognize that the Constitution makes no distinction between domestic and foreign matters. Policy is policy, and it must be made by the legislature and not the executive.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist No. 75 was explicit that the President was the constitutional agent "in the conduct of foreign negotiations." He explained:

To have intrusted the power of making treaties to the Senate alone, would have been to relinquish the benefits of the constitutional agency of the President in the conduct of foreign negotiations. It is true that the Senate would, in that case, have the option of employing him in this capacity, but they would also have the option of letting it alone, and pique or cabal might induce the latter rather than the former. Besides this, the ministerial servant of the Senate could not be expected to enjoy the confidence and respect of foreign powers in the same degree with the constitutional respresentatives of the nation, and, of course, would not be able to act with an equal degree of weight or efficacy...

Given the importance of a sound foreign policy, especially following the bad outcome concerning the intervention in Iraq and in considering the challenges that currently and are likely to confront the U.S., and the abysmal experience of isolationism prior to World War II, I don't believe one can lightly dismiss Congressman Paul's foreign policy deficiencies. At the same time, should not dismiss Mr. Paul's novel interpretation of the Constitution that would strip the President of his constitutional foreign policymaking authority and, in the process, fundamentally alter the system of checks and balances that the Nation's Founders created.

It would do the nation no good to swing from the extreme of neoconservatism to the opposite extreme of neo-isolationism. It would only entail new risks in the hope that the 21st century experiment with neo-isolationism would not fare as badly as the 20th century isolationist experience.

Anyway, that's my opinion.
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well he's right, we do need to butt out of other countries' business unless they either attack us or committ genocide. I don't doubt that a little bit of foreign policy is good though.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like some of his ideas

However, I’m not an isolationist and I’m pro Iraq war and Patriot Act so he’s not for me
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In my opinion, Ron Paul has to be the biggest kook to ever seek the Republican nomination. Now he’s going around pandering to the kook fringe and scare mongering by claiming that a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, not to mention the economy will collapse also. We are doomed, all doomed! What a flake!
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In my opinion, Ron Paul has to be the biggest kook to ever seek the Republican nomination. Now he’s going around pandering to the kook fringe and scare mongering by claiming that a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, not to mention the economy will collapse also. We are doomed, all doomed! What a flake!
Don't be mad because he's the only decent candidate.....
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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In my opinion, Ron Paul has to be the biggest kook to ever seek the Republican nomination. Now he’s going around pandering to the kook fringe and scare mongering by claiming that a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, not to mention the economy will collapse also. We are doomed, all doomed! What a flake!
Apparently you missed the news clip where Johnson pretty well acknowledged that the Gulf Of Tonkin was a fake and that it did start the Vietnam War.

Remember the Admiral who was Ross Perots running mate? He was piloting an airplane over the Gulf of Tonkin at the time. He said that we were doing all of the firing. That was about the time that Perots campaign slid into decline. Went from first in June to last in August. We were all notified simultaneously that he was paranoid. lol.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Don't be mad because he's the only decent candidate.....
Only if you define decent as flake. I mean all the guy can do is pander to the Truthers and other fringe kooks.
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