Ron Paul for President - Page 3 - Political Forum

emptypepsi · #21 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 03:14 PM

*YAWN*

Donsutherland,

I think you should read the opening paragraphs here about isolationism --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism

Learn the difference between THAT and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...nterventionism

Read the opening paragraphs, especially that on smearing others as "isolationists". Ron Paul is even mentioned as one of those commonly confused.

Slapping "neo" in front of the word without clarification of a difference doesn't make an untruth a truth.

deliciously · #22 (**permalink**) 07-19-2007, 12:53 AM

Although I certainly agree that Ron Paul has potential as a candidate, the reality is that Ron Paul is relatively unknown. Not only is he a relatively unknown, but Ron Paul's party hardly supports him. The Republicans are not going to lend him the support for him to win the election.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · #23 (**permalink**) 07-19-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Tang

It is becoming clear that your purpose here is too beat the drums about Dr Pauls wishes to leave other nations conduct their own business without pre-emptive strikes and military invasions.

This sentence does not even make any sense. What does "beat the drums about Dr. Paul's wishes to leave other nations conduct their own business...." If that's what he was doing then he would be supporting Ron Paul, which he doesn't. Your comment here is not inconsistent with your suspicion that this is "another government funded board."

I have an idea: how about not alleging a conspiracy theory or personal comment in every instance where you encounter a different opinion or you fail to observe forum rules? What do you think of my bold new idea?

WEB

CHUQ · #24 (**permalink**) 07-19-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by deliciously

Although I certainly agree that Ron Paul has potential as a candidate, the reality is that Ron Paul is relatively unknown. Not only is he a relatively unknown, but Ron Paul's party hardly supports him. The Republicans are not going to lend him the support for him to win the election.

Dr Paul is becoming more and more known, because of his performance in the past debates and from what I have read he is out fundraising McCain. I would say that he is doiung a fair job of getting his message out there. will he be successful? I doubt it. Not in the Repub party. which is a shame for he has what all candidates should have, conviction and passion and not the canned crap we are getting from the frontrunners.

emptypepsi · #25 (**permalink**) 07-19-2007, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by deliciously

Although I certainly agree that Ron Paul has potential as a candidate, the reality is that Ron Paul is relatively unknown. Not only is he a relatively unknown, but Ron Paul's party hardly supports him. The Republicans are not going to lend him the support for him to win the election.

*Realizes that it is no longer the month of January*

Dude, sorry - that's just inaccurate and wrong. He's outfunding a top-runner, McCain even. Whether his party supports him could sort of be considered irrelevant if we lived in a country where people voted for who they knew to be right, rather than the party line, but of course the reality of this aspect gives your paragraph some credit.

deliciously · #26 (**permalink**) 07-19-2007, 02:09 PM

I said he was relatively unknown. He has gained support, and he may be outraising a toprunner. However, the average person still does not know who Ron Paul is. The average people can name Guiliani, McCain, Thompson as Republican candidates, and many will falter after that. Informed people have researched all the candidates and know which candidate they agree with. Sadly this is not the reality of most people.

I enjoy Ron Paul. However, I never really knew much about him until I watched a Real Time with Bill Maher episode on which he appeared. I became interested and looked into him. However people like Guiliani, McCain, Clinton, Obama are all such forerunners that I knew plenty about each of them without having to look up information.

emptypepsi · #27 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 08:58 PM

Don't kid yourself about "the average person". The average joe doesn't even know who Mitt Romney is. You forget - we aren't discussing a television series. This is politics, and only a distinct number of the population follows it. I'd venture to guess that out of the number of people who follow the situation, more know about Paul than you give credit for.

vladward8 · #28 (**permalink**) 07-20-2007, 09:17 PM

If "Manufacturing Consent" is to be believed, there is no way that the mainstream mass media will ever give serious attention to the real (may make serious changes) person. Barak came up through the city machinery. That causes me to be suspiscious.

micfranklin · #29 (**permalink**) 07-22-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by deliciously

I said he was relatively unknown. He has gained support, and he may be outraising a toprunner. However, the average person still does not know who Ron Paul is. The average people can name Guiliani, McCain, Thompson as Republican candidates, and many will falter after that. Informed people have researched all the candidates and know which candidate they agree with. Sadly this is not the reality of most people.

However people do want to follow those who they think are informed as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deliciously

I enjoy Ron Paul. However, I never really knew much about him until I watched a Real Time with Bill Maher episode on which he appeared. I became interested and looked into him. However people like Guiliani, McCain, Clinton, Obama are all such forerunners that I knew plenty about each of them without having to look up information.

Truth be told, I knew nothing of Ron Paul until late last year and every time I hear almost nothing but good things from him.

Trojan_Horse · #30 (**permalink**) 07-22-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smallgovt1

Congressman Ron Paul is the only candidate who is candid and that is why the media and his party don't want him to win. We must have a grassroots effort on the web to get him elected. In fact every Democrat and Independent should switch to the Republican Party to support him in the primary. He speaks to our needs even better than anyone running for President.

The only way to change is if we take action. Everyone else running is the status quo. We must end the Patriot Act, high taxes, wasteful government spending, and corruption in government and Ron Paul is the only one who will take that one. He is not beholden to any special interests.

If you are not voting for Ron Paul, where does your candidate stand on each of these issues. The Republicans when in power showed they spend money like Democrats and the Democrats have supported civil liberty infringement like Republicans so there really is no difference between the parties with perhaps social issues being an exception.

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