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06-06-2007, 07:47 PM
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Filthy music, movies, tv and the porn epidemic
Perhaps the biggest issue effecting the US and the entire western world today is the sea of absolutely immoral filth in the pop culture, not even mentioning the unspeakably vile trash often referred to as "pornography." Yet, I will bet that not one major candidate from either party makes cleaning up our culture a centerpiece issue of his or her campaign. In fact, I bet it won't even be an issue at all.
Our young people have all become foul mouthed out of control perverts, and yet nobody seems to point the blame where it belongs: on Hollywood and the entertainment industry. We must bring back moral standards in entertainment or we are doomed. We need a candidate who puts this issue on the frontburner where it must be. Its the most critical issue facing our nation today. Why does no one seem to care???
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06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
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The porn industry makes more money every year than Hollywood does.
Hollywood: 400 films this year
Porn: 11,000 films
700 million porn DVD’s rented
That rakes in 10-14 billion a year.
The average Hotel makes more money selling porn than hey do selling booze.
Yahoo will charge 200 or 400 dollars to have websites on the top of their search engines. For the porn industry it is 600. (a large amount of the money they rake in.)
The porn industry is too big to bring it down especially now with the internet.
Pornography is considered Adult expression to the porn industry.
The problem is, no matter how you look at it, Pornography is adult expression with willing participants. The only ones who can view it are adults and they have to be looking for it to view it… unless you get porno junk mail…
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Last edited by Seer; 06-07-2007 at 12:51 AM.
Reason: spelling
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06-06-2007, 09:27 PM
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That is not true, children and teens are constantly exposed to this trash. They are one of the primary target audiences of the organized crime interests that are behind this "industry" that degrades women, dehumanizes people as sex objects for money, and perverts human sexuality into something it was never intended and is not normal. It has become so pervasive in its influence on young people their entire view of sex and sexuality has been influenced by the perversions they see on it. It is sad and could be stopped if people had the courage to stand up to the organized crime elements behind it. It is not speech, and makes a mockery of what free speech was intended to protect.
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06-06-2007, 09:35 PM
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Funny You Should Mention That
Try watching soap operas....showing the ethics and behaviour of the 'rich and restless'.....between the politics and soft porn it makes me wonder if Chavez dosn't have a point. 
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06-07-2007, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rob_anderson
That is not true, children and teens are constantly exposed to this trash. They are one of the primary target audiences of the organized crime interests that are behind this "industry" that degrades women, dehumanizes people as sex objects for money, and perverts human sexuality into something it was never intended and is not normal. It has become so pervasive in its influence on young people their entire view of sex and sexuality has been influenced by the perversions they see on it. It is sad and could be stopped if people had the courage to stand up to the organized crime elements behind it. It is not speech, and makes a mockery of what free speech was intended to protect.
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Organized crime? Is there a link for that? Beyond that, I would say the prob is that the news, mags, etc exalt people like Paris and Lindsay and do-dahs. That does more damage than a film. Unfortunately, sex sells and as long as these people make money it will be here and there.
Are you basically saying that we should legislate morality?
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06-07-2007, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rob_anderson
That is not true, children and teens are constantly exposed to this trash. They are one of the primary target audiences of the organized crime interests that are behind this "industry" that degrades women, dehumanizes people as sex objects for money, and perverts human sexuality into something it was never intended and is not normal. It has become so pervasive in its influence on young people their entire view of sex and sexuality has been influenced by the perversions they see on it. It is sad and could be stopped if people had the courage to stand up to the organized crime elements behind it. It is not speech, and makes a mockery of what free speech was intended to protect.
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Everyone has the right to stand against pornography if they they choose to believe as you do. For example, I do not. I believe that people have the right to watch whatever they choose. Idon't understand where you, for example, seem to the arbiter of what is "never intended and normal". I suspect many cultures would disagree with you.
It is speech, and as such is protected by our constitution. In my opinion, it's much sadder that organized religions are protected by the Constitution also. But I will respect that same Constitution...will you?
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06-07-2007, 02:52 PM
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That is not true, children and teens are constantly exposed to this trash.
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Well then they are breaking the rules then aren’t they? Now you’re talking about a different problem. You’re talking about accessibility, not the porn itself. Kids get a hand on booze but you can’t outlaw booze just because kids will occasionally get their hands on it. What you should be working towards is something more practical like advocating for the prevention of children seeing pornography. To take down an industry larger than Hollywood, when it causes no physical harm to anyone who does not wish to participate, would be an attempt in vain.
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Originally Posted by rob_anderson
They are one of the primary target audiences of the organized crime interests that are behind this "industry" that degrades women, dehumanizes people as sex objects for money, and perverts human sexuality into something it was never intended and is not normal. It has become so pervasive in its influence on young people their entire view of sex and sexuality has been influenced by the perversions they see on it. It is sad and could be stopped if people had the courage to stand up to the organized crime elements behind it. It is not speech, and makes a mockery of what free speech was intended to protect.
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To the point about children being primary targets… I’d have to say that is simply wrong until you provide me with some evidence.
To the point about organized crime… I’d have to say that is simply wrong until you provide me with some evidence.
To the point about morality… I’d have to say that is simply your moral subjectiveness to which I do not agree.
To the point about the ability to prevent it… You mentioned stuff about how if only people could stand up against it, it would go away. There is a saying in the media industry, “sex sells”. If you can find something else that sells better, then by all means, go ahead and replace it.
To the point about free speech… The supreme court declared it free speech… take it up with them.
Final note: Solders in the US military are away from their wives and homes for years at end during war time. What do you suggest they do when they haven’t seen a woman for months or when they hardly remember the touch of a woman any longer? If you support the troops then you support pornography… to a cretin extent.
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My pick: Barack Obama
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Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
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06-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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There certainly is an influx and cesspool of shit in our culture. But culture is not decided by the Government, nor should it be. Therefore, a President shouldn't be introducing legislation to curb how culture is in the country.
The only way to curb it is parenting and/or individual personal changes.
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06-07-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUQ
Organized crime? Is there a link for that? Beyond that, I would say the prob is that the news, mags, etc exalt people like Paris and Lindsay and do-dahs. That does more damage than a film. Unfortunately, sex sells and as long as these people make money it will be here and there.
Are you basically saying that we should legislate morality?
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Right on.  The more we have a society that wants to purchase trash, the more accessible it will be for them. It's sad, but the government has nothing nor should it have anything to do with it.
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06-07-2007, 11:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rob_anderson
Perhaps the biggest issue effecting the US and the entire western world today is the sea of absolutely immoral filth in the pop culture, not even mentioning the unspeakably vile trash often referred to as "pornography." Yet, I will bet that not one major candidate from either party makes cleaning up our culture a centerpiece issue of his or her campaign. In fact, I bet it won't even be an issue at all.
Our young people have all become foul mouthed out of control perverts, and yet nobody seems to point the blame where it belongs: on Hollywood and the entertainment industry. We must bring back moral standards in entertainment or we are doomed. We need a candidate who puts this issue on the frontburner where it must be. Its the most critical issue facing our nation today. Why does no one seem to care???
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Do you have any qualms at all about legislating your religious morality on the rest of your countrymen and enforcing it with imprisonment?
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