Can somebody please,in simple understandable english explain to me what Obama means by "Change." This Policy stuff are difficult to fully grasp!

Thank You.

Is he going to closed down all porno houses,adult stores,restrict profanity in music movies....

There is already a thread going on about this question-it is called what's OBAMAS plan for change by calidem on page 2 of this forum-check it out

Obama plans to change by taking us back to 1972.

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Obama thinks being the first ARAB/AFRICAN AMERICAN President of the United States will automatically bring about CHANGE and it will be ENOUGH!

Other than the fact that he believes that babies born alive from an abortion should NOT be given medical care...I have no idea what he means by CHANGE! I haven't heard one thing out of his mouth...or from his voting record...that would lead me to believe he even knows what CHANGES he can enact. It seems to me that he thinks he can just get elected president and CHANGE everything immediately...like we were a dictatorship!

And heaven help him if he does get elected and change doesn't happen fast enough...if at all. Man that will NOT be pretty seeing the U.S. citizens turn on another president!

You didn't say that when you were supporting him. Interesting what a wide swing your rhetoric takes due to who the Republican nominee is.

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i'm guessing being african american is enough to count as change, also his "in-expierence" can be considered change, he isn't just a new form of bill clinton, he hasn't been in politics in hundreds of years

Obama hasn't outlined his change, leaving us to speculate at the change to come. But I think we can get a good idea by looking at what he says and does.

One interesting thing is that he says change instead of reform. Reform means he wants to change the policies that are not working. Change is ambiguous, and subject to suspicion.

His wife was not proud of America until her husband became a possible nominee. He throws his own grandmother under the bus, without, whether she's alive or dead, giving her the chance to defend herself. He even called her a "typical white person." Beyond being prejudice, that's ignorant.

He attends a hate-church for twenty years. He doesn't break off his relationship with Wright, when Wright's Nazi-like speeches became public, but does so when Wright makes a slight towards Obama -- Obama didn't care about Wright spreading hate, but a petty personal attack…that's another story. Of course, I'm referring to the "he's a politician" statement.

It's sad when one has to vote for a warmonger like McCain, but Obama gives one no choice. I do not want the change Obama offers.

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I would have thought that after America has seen where Washington politics have lead us, we would be more open to change. I see instead that it is ridiculed. Why should we take our future seriously? It's far more comical to laugh at a man who believes that he can truly change America for the better. "Change is being the first black president". "Change is taking us back to 1972".

Threshold, you are probably the most troubling. Your signiture claims that expereince is what is gained from our mistakes and yet simultaneously you are against change and pro continuing the Iraq War. I'm sorry, but this seems blatently hipocritical. Iraq was a mistake, how about we gain experience from it? Don't begin hating Michelle Obama for a misspeak. You know very well that she meant to say that this was the very first time that she was proud of American politics, not America. Obama initially refused to break his relationship with his preacher not out of respect for his views, but because of their personal connection. Obama never knew his father. Reverend Wright introduced Obama to Christianity, was his preacher for decades, married him to his wife, and babtized his children. Wright was like a father for Obama and it is heartless to assume that ending such an involved relationship in a single day is an easy thing. Obama did not renounce Wright because of a slight towards Obama, but because he realized that Wright did not care for Obama. Obama had asked him to stay out of the politics and let the story die down. Wright instead decided to reinvigorate the controversy by going on a nation-wide speaking tour of hate. Obama realized that Wright put his own agenda before his relationship with Obama. That was when Obama ceased to view Wright as a father and that was when Obama severed their ties. You say that you do not know what change Obama means and at the same time you say you do not want the type of change that he means. How does this make logical sense? Imagine an NFL draft room where a GM says "I don't know who my head coach wants to draft, but I don't want to draft that man". If you want to ridicule something, try starting with your own comments. Go ahead and vote for McCain; I hope the knowledge that you voted to end thousands of American lives haunts you.

You folks want an outline of change?

Change means an end to the Washington that we are forced to deal with today. Change means no more lobbyists controlling our government. Change means putting a man in power who has not been corrupted by a lifetime in Washington. Change means America being a moral leader for the world once more. Change means ending the senseless bloodshed in Iraq. Change means no more sick children being left to die by the government because they can not afford health insurance. Change means a serious commitment to ending our dependance on oil and starting to respect our environment. Change means getting the youth to start caring about their government once more. Change means allowing stem cell research to start saving lives. Change means no more discrimination against gays simply because they are different.

That's change and I suggest that you get behind it before you are left stuck in the past wondering why the country is progressing without you.

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You know this, do you? You can show me where he has said that he believes this? The fact is, you don't know anything about the man except what Hildebeast has spoon-fed her supporters.

That's a pretty bold accusation. Your evidence is...??

Then you haven't been listening or reading. How about the legislation making all earmark spending requests public record by law. Legislation for which he crossed the aisle to work with one of the most uber-conservatives in congress, Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.

Now a question for you:

If Hillary is so "right" for America; if she is The One that will restore order to the universe and bring balance to The Force; if she really is All That and sliced bread too; how can it be that she would be willing to work to get Obama elected when the nomination is officially decided and the nominee is Not Her. You are willing to trust her with your health care, with your tax policy, with an infinite number of things that effect your daily life. Yet you are not willing to trust her when she says (as she has on many occasions) that Obama would make an excellent President. How is it that her judgement is suddenly suspect? You are willing to follow her to the exclusion of any other possibility, yet when she herself states that another possibility might be worth working for and (GASP!) voting for, you will not darken the door of a voting precinct. That, my dear, is what we call a conundrum.

You want to know what Obama will change? Mostly the same things as Clinton. His style will be different, his ability to work with the other side of the aisle will be different. Actually, I think Obama can be more effective in this than Clinton, because Clinton has 20-year-old baggage she brings to any discussion across the aisle. The GOP was merciless towards her husband; how much moreso towards her?

Also, her embrace of Scaife leaves a really nasty taste in my mouth. This is one of the big wheels that aligned relentlessly against her and her husband as the "vast right-wing conspiracy." IMO, any person worth their salt would have told him exactly where to shove his endorsement and how far to shove it under those circumstances.

But on the substantive issues, Obama and Clinton are very close. I don't like Clinton because I believe she supports the old way of doing things; lobbyists, cronyism, spin, and negativity. We have seen it played out in this primary cycle. HOWEVER, as much as I dislike Clinton, I dislike the idea of a McCain Presidency even more. I would vote for Clinton if she were the nominee.

The differences are purely style, not substance.

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