Operation Chaos - Rush Limbaugh - Page 3 - Political Forum

notahack · #21 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by prrriiide

Then you are standing firm on sandy soil. Limbaugh is not giving his endorsement to Hillary. He is entreating his dittohead-zombie army to go vote for Hillary in order to throw the Democratic nomination into chaos. He knows that the party is so sharply divided that a few thousand votes one way or the other (<20K in Indiana, remember) can change the face of a Democratic primary. He also knows that every day that Obama and Clinton tear at each other is one more day they aren't laying into McCain. And even though he doesn't like McCain particularly, he dislikes any Democrat even more.

Norris did what thousands of other "people of influence" have done: directly endorsed a candidate for legitimate reasons. If Limbaugh comes out and grudgingly says "vote for McCain because he's the best of a bad bunch," that's one thing. But no person that has been anywhere outside of under a rock for the last 20 years can possibly believe that Limbaugh "endorsed" Clinton. My God, the man would rather bash his testicles with a ball-peen hammer than play a part in getting any Democrat elected, much less a Clinton. Norris didn't encourage anyone to go vote for a candidate he doesn't believe in. Limbaugh is simply engaging in political dooshbaggery. The two aren't even in the same city, much less the same ballpark.

And it's not the sheeple that listen to him that would act. There is a sizable portion of his listenership that is on the same or even lower level than he. They aren't doing it because he said to. They're doing it because he suggested it and they thought "Geez, why didn't I think of that? That's awesome!" That's why Limbaugh is such a tool: he knows that that element exists within his sphere of influence, and he unashamedly uses it.

Instead of appealing to a more civilized politics, he preys on such attitudes to promote the politics of division and mistrust.

I am sorry but I just got it. An endorsement from an entertainer is only that unless you don't like that entertainer. Then, the listeners or viewers are simply mind numbed people as opposed to the viewers/listeners of say, Oprah are not mind numb. Ok i get the difference now..........

point A: I did not realize that Limbaughs listeners face court martial if they disobey his orders since they are an army

point B: doesn't anyone who follows politics know that if Oprahma and Hillbilly bash each other then they leave McCain alone? or do we all need Limbaugh to point that out to us?

point 3: I finally get it. If you listen to Limbaugh then you are on a lower plain of existence. I work during the day and am out of country a lot so i don't have the fortune (be it good or bad) to hear him. But, since I view him simply as just another blow hard entertainer that wants to make their political views known then I don't see the conspiracy or whatever it is that he controls with an iron fist.

My gosh, I don't get worked up about Susan Sarandon the Goo Goo Dolls and even Mrs Governator Maria Shriver and their support for Oprah backed boy.

emptypepsi · #22 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:05 PM

Wow, are you kidding? You mean there are those on this thread that can not see the difference between:

1. A celebrity endorsement (Chuck Norris saying "I Like Huckabee, vote for him", or Oprah saying "I like Obama, vote for him").

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2. Rush Limbaugh telling people to vote for someone strictly to draw out and antagonize supporters of the opposite ideology of his. He has not endorsed Hillary for President, nor has he endorsed McCain. He had endorsed childishly voting in primaries of camps of whom he has opposed since he started in broadcasting.

If Oprah had come out and said "It's time for Operation (insert name here)! Go out and vote in the Republican primaries to divide up the vote even further and create a long running campaign that is sure to divide the party!", then that would similar to what Rush is doing.

After the explanations that pride and Aztek have laid out, one would have to be willfull at this point to continue feigning ignorance, or completely and honestly not understand the difference (neither of which I would be happy to fall under).

prrriiide · #23 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notahack

I am sorry but I just got it. An endorsement from an entertainer is only that unless you don't like that entertainer. Then, the listeners or viewers are simply mind numbed people as opposed to the viewers/listeners of say, Oprah are not mind numb. Ok i get the difference now..........

You still have not understood the salient point that LIMBAUGH HAS NOT ENDORSED CLINTON! He hates her.

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point A: I did not realize that Limbaughs listeners face court martial if they disobey his orders since they are an army

I see hyperbole is lost on you. Your sarcastic facetiousness does nothing to sell your point.

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point B: doesn't anyone who follows politics know that if Oprahma and Hillbilly bash each other then they leave McCain alone? or do we all need Limbaugh to point that out to us?

No need for Limbaugh to point it out. However, registering for another party in order to vote for the candidate most likely to lose to your candidate in November is not something that jumps to the front of one's mind when looking at a Presidential primary unless urged to do so.

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point 3: I finally get it. If you listen to Limbaugh then you are on a lower plain of existence. I work during the day and am out of country a lot so i don't have the fortune (be it good or bad) to hear him. But, since I view him simply as just another blow hard entertainer that wants to make their political views known then I don't see the conspiracy or whatever it is that he controls with an iron fist.

Your facetiousness notwithstanding, there are a fair number of people that only get their political news through the Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity/Coulter filter.

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My gosh, I don't get worked up about Susan Sarandon the Goo Goo Dolls and even Mrs Governator Maria Shriver and their support for Oprah backed boy.

Which one of them has urged Democratic voters to register as Republicans for the expressed purpose of skewing the results of Republican primaries? WHICH ONE?

The fact is, this is a Democratic Party issue. The GOP (in the person of Limbaugh) can stay the fuck out of it until November. If their candidate is stronger, he will win. Why the chicken-shit ploy of skewing the process to get a candidate that is more likely to be beaten? Is the GOP candidate really so weak?

notahack · #24 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:23 PM

None of your points are lost on me; trust me. But, and it's a big but, he is just an entertainer and yes he has a platform from which to entertain.

Nowhere did i mention that he "supports Hil, or Obs or McCain"
that was deduced by responders.

I guess some folks just put a heck of a lot more stock in worrying what an entertainer has to say. I have more faith in people and would love to see a real figure on the % of people that cast their votes solely based upon what Limbaugh, Ann the blond devil woman, Oprah or any other entertainer suggest.

I doubt we could ever get an actual figure because who would say with pride

"I voted for Obs because Oprah said to"

Sheesh, look how heated some have gotten over what Limbaugh has to say. Limbaugh is a legend in his own mind and I'm confident that the average American can realize that. The beauty of it is unlike with politicians or generals, with Limbaugh, just shut off the radio. With Oprah, or Rosie, turn off the TV.

So, I'll take the barbs and insults thrown my way. If you wish to think me ignorant or stupid, then so be it, trust me, I'll sleep well despite it. I just have more faith in America than to believe that any entertainer can really affect the outcome of the presidential election (unless that entertainer is running for the office)

colourislast · #25 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:52 PM

Operation Chaos has nothing to do with who Rush thinks is harder to beat in November. If Obama had lost momentum in the press after the Wright issue, he would have told people to vote for Obama to help keep him in the race.

AzTeK · #26 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Strat God

It's clear that all you liberals are just pissed-off that you didn't think of it first. hahahahahahahahaha..............

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Originally Posted by colourislast

They did think of it first, they are mad because we are using their idea more effectively.

I didn't follow the 2000 primaries, but if the DNC in fact did so than it is just as despicable as what Limbaugh is doing. Why should there be a difference? How do you even come up with the idea that anyone would be as hypocritical to differentiate? To portray me, as the tread starter, as such a hypocrit borders on an insult.

Some people can't tell a difference between red and green, others can't tell the difference between what Oprah does and what Limbaugh does. It's not surprising.

colourislast · #27 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTeK

I didn't follow the 2000 primaries, but if the DNC in fact did so than it is just as despicable as what Limbaugh is doing. Why should there be a difference? How do you even come up with the idea that anyone would be as hypocritical to differentiate? To portray me, as the tread starter, as such a hypocrit borders on an insult.

Some people can't tell a difference between red and green, others can't tell the difference between what Oprah does and what Limbaugh does. It's not surprising.

I doubt if anyone called you hypocritical over this, AzTek.

The major difference between what Oprah and Limbaugh have done is, Oprah has someone to support, Limbaugh only has people he does not want in office but has to choose one over the others. So he is doing what he can to make the coverage interesting to him.