Idiots still think Obama is a Muslim - Political Forum

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-08-2008, 01:11 AM

Media Matters - Wash. Times quoted Indiana man saying Obama is "a Muslim" without noting the assertion is false

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In a May 7 article, Washington Times reporter Stephen Dinan wrote that Sen. Barack Obama "continues to have trouble with voters' preconceived notions about him, including one man eating breakfast at an Indiana restaurant who waved him away when the candidate approached him." Dinan then uncritically quoted the man stating, "I can't stand him. ... He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned." By contrast, in a May 7 article, the Chicago Sun-Times wrote:

Though Obama outspent Clinton 2-to-1 in Indiana, there was just no reaching some people. At a restaurant outside Indianapolis Tuesday morning, one man waved Obama away when the senator approached him to shake his hand. The man told a reporter, "I can't stand him. He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned."

Obama has never been a Muslim, but bogus e-mails accuse him of being a Muslim who put his hand on a copy of the Quran to be sworn into the U.S. Senate and refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

I thought it was funny how when John King of CNN was talking about West Virginia and how it was a state tailor-made for Hillary, he described it as having few blacks, few universities, people with not a lot of education....

Nash · 05-08-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Media Matters - Wash. Times quoted Indiana man saying Obama is "a Muslim" without noting the assertion is false

I thought it was funny how when John King of CNN was talking about West Virginia and how it was a state tailor-made for Hillary, he described it as having few blacks, few universities, people with not a lot of education....

The word Muslim in arabic translate into one who submits to the will of God, or one who believes in God. The arabic word for God is ALLAH, meaning "The God" (AL-THE. LAH-GOD, ) Do you know what arabic speaking christians call God..yup ALLAH. So according to the arabic meaning Obama is a Muslim(one who believes in God). Question is who is trying to distort the arabic to make being a Muslim out to be a bad thing?

Gnuf Said · 05-08-2008, 10:21 AM

If there is one thing I have learned in my life, it is that people hear and see what they want to hear and see, and block out evidence to the contrary.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-08-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nash

The word Muslim in arabic translate into one who submits to the will of God, or one who believes in God. The arabic word for God is ALLAH, meaning "The God" (AL-THE. LAH-GOD, ) Do you know what arabic speaking christians call God..yup ALLAH. So according to the arabic meaning Obama is a Muslim(one who believes in God). Question is who is trying to distort the arabic to make being a Muslim out to be a bad thing?

That's a creative interpretation of what the word Muslim means. What Muslim means though in reality, is someone who believes in Islam. Muslims, Christians, athetists, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists are all distinct religions, they are not the same, as you are saying. Their practitioners are not all Muslims. Muslims are Muslims and not anybody else.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-09-2008, 01:22 AM

One resident in West Virginia recently said:

Mountain State's an uphill climb for Obama - USATODAY.com

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"Is he Islamic or is he not?" Pasley says of Obama, who is Christian. "I know he's tried to talk about it but he hasn't looked anybody in Wayne in the eye and told them."

Obama needs to put this Muslim shit to bed. This is just ridiculous. He needs to start talking about his faith in JESUS in some big speech. Put it somewhere in the speech where it cannot be missed.

Slartibartfas · 05-09-2008, 10:16 AM

Its funny to read those I hope rare stories of idiots still believing Obama is Muslim.

When Clinton eventually accepts to give up or more likely is forced either by the party or the final outcome of the primaries to give up her fight, Obama will fully face the dirt campaign of the Republicans.

I bet we will hear his second name Hussein often enough then.

colourislast · 05-09-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

Its funny to read those I hope rare stories of idiots still believing Obama is Muslim.

When Clinton eventually accepts to give up or more likely is forced either by the party or the final outcome of the primaries to give up her fight, Obama will fully face the dirt campaign of the Republicans.

I bet we will hear his second name Hussein often enough then.

Why should hearing his middle name be a problem? It is no more a Muslim name than his first and last. Why is having a Muslim name a problem?

Slartibartfas · 05-09-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by colourislast

Why should hearing his middle name be a problem? It is no more a Muslim name than his first and last. Why is having a Muslim name a problem?

Because dirt campaigns dont address reason but irrationality and especially vague feelings.

If one looks up in the history of dirt campaigns I guess one can find various examples where one questions oneself if people are really as stupid as campaigners think they are.

colourislast · 05-09-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

Because dirt campaigns dont address reason but irrationality and especially vague feelings.

If one looks up in the history of dirt campaigns I guess one can find various examples where one questions oneself if people are really as stupid as campaigners think they are.

The defense for this is so simple. Would he be a better or worse candidate if his name was Micheal Thomas Jones? His views are not diectly linked to his name. He needs to embrace his name now publicly to make it a non-issue.

Slartibartfas · 05-09-2008, 12:39 PM

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The defense for this is so simple. Would he be a better or worse candidate if his name was Micheal Thomas Jones? His views are not diectly linked to his name. He needs to embrace his name now publicly to make it a non-issue.

I have not invented dirt campaigns, I do not even support them. But you are trying to address it by reason. Your argument is valid, but if reason would be so important we would see considerably less dirt campaigns during election time than we do normally.