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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-12-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by francois60

Read his books. He also tended to endorse Republicans up until 2004 or so. The Iraq war pushed Webb to the Democrats. His recent voting record has been reliably Democrat, but that probably has more to do with him being new. First term Senators rarely make waves. Obama certainly didn't. Even McCain was mostly a reliable vote in his first Senate term.

So even though you say Webb is "hard right", you can present absolutely NO evidence to support this? At the same time you admit that his recent voting record is "reliably Democrat." I would have to call your comment BS then. Actually reminds me of Joao da Silva post, if you remember that guy from USPO.

WEB

Opinionated_2 · 05-12-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThresholdOutlet

Obama ruined a “sure thing.” the Democrats had the election in the bag. Obama ran as a nearly flawless candidate until, almost at the very end, when he had a good majority of delegates, everyone finds out that he is a fatally flawed candidate who has no chance to win. CNN says 50% of Hillary supporters will, if he wins, either vote McCain or not show up to vote at all. Obama better pick a very popular VP. Maybe Gore wants to be a vice president again.
The question is: why would someone go to a radical church for twenty years, associate with a terrorist, and then decide to run for President of the United States of America? What else is going to come out of the woodworks? Maybe Obama should give it to Hillary and then let her pick a VP.

I'm with you. I think there is more to come about him - and I still cannot get past why the majority of Democrats seemingly think he is "perfect" - or "flawless". I don't get it and I am concerned for the country. Originally, I was thinking that SHE would be the one to pick him as VP, but back when that was suggested, he acted arrogantly regarding that possibility.

So, he makes a good "impression", is educated and a decent speaker - - like others, I am unsure of his capability to lead the country. I have not had great feelings about his wife, either. I envision him - if he got into the White House, (with his sleeves rolled up - like he does) all ready to go - saying "Okay - what do I do now?" - God help us.

lifesaver · 05-12-2008, 07:15 PM

chris mathews today came up with a stellar idea-how about republican chuch hagel from nebraska-war vet-polished in foreign relations-anti war-and vocally not very happy with bush-republican turning democrat-what do you think?

Taliesin · 05-12-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Opinionated_2

Originally, I was thinking that SHE would be the one to pick him as VP, but back when that was suggested, he acted arrogantly regarding that possibility.

You have got to be kidding me! He acted arrogantly? When Clinton suggested that Obama would be a good Vice President under her, she was in second place. Obama himself noted that saying that was the first time that a person in second place had ever offered the VP slot to the person in first place. How was Obama the one being arrogant? In your mind, how was Hillary's comment justified?

Opinionated_2 · 05-12-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Taliesin

You have got to be kidding me! He acted arrogantly? When Clinton suggested that Obama would be a good Vice President under her, she was in second place. Obama himself noted that saying that was the first time that a person in second place had ever offered the VP slot to the person in first place. How was Obama the one being arrogant? In your mind, how was Hillary's comment justified?

That's just it - They were not finished campaigning for remaining states or wins, also around the time Obama supporters were suggesting she "should back out", which we all know now, she is not going to do.

I'm just saying that when asked about him possibly becoming VP if she won, she responded fairly and to the effect that it "could be a consideration'. It was AFTER she suggested this that HE acted as if he had already won when asked the same question - and yes, came off as arrogant.

I'm not the only one who is aware of this and it was all over the news - but maybe you weren't watching / hearing it.

Since his last win, he has become much softer in his approach when asked about Hillary in general. I'm sure he knows - or has been told - that it is to his benefit to appear "fair" at this point.

Originally, before I knew what I know now, I felt open to him possibly as VP. I feel as others do, that he needs to learn from someone with experience instead of being in the driver's seat. However, I just feel he is a questionable person at this point no matter how he appears to many. America has been wrong before.

TheKentuckian · 05-13-2008, 01:59 AM

No one in the race has ANY executive experience and Hillary has had less time in an elected or appointed office than Obama.

Hillary is basically running on being First Lady. She was an active First but she was at most an adviser. Her experience is negligible and very much exaggerated.

The entire experience angle is way overplayed in this election. None of these folks have any that directly correlates and that's okay, after all the guy in the White House now had two terms as the head honcho of a very large state and he still doesn't have a clue. I'm just bewildered why these candidates are pushing the issue so hard and more so why voters are even remotely buying it.

francois60 · 05-14-2008, 10:11 PM

So even though you say Webb is "hard right", you can present absolutely NO evidence to support this? At the same time you admit that his recent voting record is "reliably Democrat." I would have to call your comment BS then. Actually reminds me of Joao da Silva post, if you remember that guy from USPO.

I admit I don't know Webb's views on domestic issues that well, but when he was Navy Secretary he was a serious hawk. There are a lot of bigtime hawks that opposed the Iraq war, but when the next big challenge comes, I'm not sure Obama wants an uberhawk cramping his style.

Webb is also very anti-PC. If you read his book on the Scots-Irish, there are a lot of statements in there that border on racist. He also made a borderline anti-semetic ad in order to defeat his primary opponent.

Maybe it's just a Virginia thing.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-14-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by francois60

I admit I don't know Webb's views on domestic issues that well, but when he was Navy Secretary he was a serious hawk. There are a lot of bigtime hawks that opposed the Iraq war, but when the next big challenge comes, I'm not sure Obama wants an uberhawk cramping his style.

Webb is also very anti-PC. If you read his book on the Scots-Irish, there are a lot of statements in there that border on racist. He also made a borderline anti-semetic ad in order to defeat his primary opponent.

Maybe it's just a Virginia thing.

Did you read his book on the Scots-Irish?

catawba · 05-15-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by francois60

So even though you say Webb is "hard right", you can present absolutely NO evidence to support this? At the same time you admit that his recent voting record is "reliably Democrat." I would have to call your comment BS then. Actually reminds me of Joao da Silva post, if you remember that guy from USPO.

I admit I don't know Webb's views on domestic issues that well, but when he was Navy Secretary he was a serious hawk. There are a lot of bigtime hawks that opposed the Iraq war, but when the next big challenge comes, I'm not sure Obama wants an uberhawk cramping his style.

Webb is also very anti-PC. If you read his book on the Scots-Irish, there are a lot of statements in there that border on racist. He also made a borderline anti-semetic ad in order to defeat his primary opponent.

Maybe it's just a Virginia thing.

Perhaps it is. On the two issues that matter most to Virginians, ending the war and improving the economy, Webb comes down on our side. I would be happy to vote for him again.