The reason I think it is Obama’s fault, is that he looked like a perfect candidate. He, knowing more than the general public, should have at least denounced Wright before he ran. Still, Wright may have gone away if Wright hadn’t bounded onto national television, calling Obama a liar, and then Obama compounded it by flip-flopping the issue.

It’s bad. Obama couldn’t have handled things worse.

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When the Democratic Party is down to one candidate, about one fifth of Hillary's voters will go to McCain. The rest will rally around Obama. And then you are going to see Obama surge way out in front of McCain.

You've not addressed a lot of Obama's situation while saying what Obama should do. Had Obama kicked Wright to the side, he would not have been able to beat Hillary in the primary. For a while, Hillary had the black vote. Believe it or not. People argued whether Obama was "black enough." The Clinton's reputation among black people used to be worth gold. Now due to their racism and racial politics, it's worth shit. Politically, Obama needed Wright. Obama could be blamed though for not having changed churches earlier. However, it is also entirely possible that he never heard the worst of Wright's remarks before.

Regardless, the FUNDAMENTAL flaw of the Democrat Party was not the individual Obama, nor was it the individual Hillary Clinton, it was the stupid ass women, the stupid ass liberals and the stupid ass Democrat men who said yeah, Clinton's a good candidate, let's make her the frontrunner and ignore someone like Joe Biden who had the STRONGEST credentials among all the Democrats. Imagine if you had a company like that, who chose to setup their factory in Burma instead of China, or to set it up in Zimbabwe instead of South Africa. That's sheer fucking incompetence, and it's the incompetence of tens of millions of Democrats. This is a democracy, run by the US public and we are to blame for supporting Clinton and Bush. Fuck America and fuck the USA when we do shit like that.


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The election results last night do not support your point. Clinton is back to where she was before she won PA. I do think you hit on above who might best win the general when you said, "So many people despise Hillary Clinton." The rest of your sentence there doesn't jive with election results.

We all need to focus on whether we want the Democrats or the Republicans in charge for the next four years. As calmobserver commented, "The Republicans can't win, but the Democrats can lose." Forgive me calm if I didn't get your quote exactly right. I think I captured your meaning though.

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Like the other guy said, you are incorrect.

First of all, she is not overtaking him in the last stretch. Last night Obama erased the entire popular vote gain which HRC got from Pennsylvania and Indiana COMBINED by his win in North Carolina. That puts the popular vote lead back up to 700 thousand where it was before Pennsylvania. Explain how that = her overtaking him?

Second of all, Obama has gained a substantial amount of superdelegates in the last month or so (added to the pledged delegate margin which he is increasing once again after NC). Clinton, on the other hand, has lost some key superdelegates who switched over to Obama. Explain how that shows her overtaking him?

Third, Clinton just loaned herself 6.4 million dollars just so that she could keep her campaign running. Meanwhile, Obama is flush with cash. Who is limping? Please, explain.

And finally, your assertion that Obama was "way ahead in the polls" in Indiana is patently false. Looking at Reaclearpolitics.com, if I look back to:

April 25 (within that 1-2 week area you gave) there are 3 polls
Obama +3
Obama +1
Clinton +5
- Pretty tight race with HRC showing some strength

April 28 there is 1 poll
Clinton +9
-Clinton showing considerable strength

April 29 there are 2 polls
Obama +2
Clinton +8
- Again, Clinton showing more strength.

May 1 there are 2 polls
Clinton + 5
Clinton +10
- Wow, HRC really picking up steam here. She looks like she's getting ready to dominate Indiana.

May 2 there are 4 polls
Tie
Clinton +7
Clinton +7
Clinton +9
- Hmmm...

May 3 there is 1 poll
Obama +1
- Obama with a slight glimmer of hope after the two previous days of polling.

May 4 there are 2 polls
Obama +2
Clinton +8
- Yea Obama has really been dominating these numbers hasn't he?

May 5 there are 5 polls
Obama +2
Clinton +4
Clinton +5
Clinton +6
Clinton +12
- Holy crap, look at Obama being WAY ahead. Man, when Hillary manages to bring his massive lead down to a virtual tie the next day, she will have really shown him!!!!


Exactly which world are you living on? Or what are you smoking at the moment? If its that good could you pass some of it over here?

A fine post EXCEPT for these unnecessary comments.

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By the way, I think Obama should get Michael Bloomberg for his VP.

That would deny J-Mac his Independent voters, and would earn Obama the Lou Dobbs seal of approval, which would almost certainly help him out with a lot blue collar white voters.

It would also bring in an experienced politician who is solid on economics and is very popular in the center.

It would also help Obama with the Jewish vote.

It would also give Bloomberg the shoe in for the Presidency in 2016, making him the first Independent president in the history of the nation.

Yea sorry, I get carried away sometimes when I see someone saying things that are so obviously untrue lol.

I don't think it was "obviously untrue". That's an exaggeration. Obama did fail himself, his party and his country by keeping Rev. Wright around. It's entirely fair to blame him for that. I'm just saying that the American people are fairly stupid in general because some support Bush while others support Clinton. That's the real problem with the American public.

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I think its funny that people keep talking about how its politically expedient to have dropped him when he did. I think i was politically expedient to pick him up when he did. He needed footing in Illinois that was going to be safe and secure for his immediate political ambitions. Rev. Wright and company were a great and logical choice for Obama, and it served him well, getting a nomination speech that few with his tenure get. It is my understanding that Obama isn't really a religious type in any way but more of a social justice guy. He just picked up who was the best for his immediate future. . .that is where he was politically expedient. Seeing as how he is likely going to be #44 though i have to say its a pretty small blip n the "omg" radar.

I just pray he doesn't pick Edwards, that guy scares me with his lack of economic understanding.