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Old 04-28-2008, 08:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with everything you said about Wright, BUT, he simply was not making fun of JFK's patriotism.
You may choose to view it that way. I maintain that it was an attack on JFK's patriotism.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I can see a lot of different views on this one and I also think this is not helping Obama at all.... but I do feel like Reverend Wright was just trying to say that there is a big difference on how and how many people attack Americans in the NE for the way that they speak English ( a very very bad choice to use such a great American as JFK !!!!!! ) - vs - how many people attack black Americans for how they speak English. Don't get me wrong I feel like he has some very very strong veiw points on racisum and our American society, but he is from a different time and he is not the one running for our great office....


This is how I see the whole guilty by association - I love my girl friend and I don't HAVE to be with her... but she and some of her family - like most people all over this world have very strong views about other people that aren't like them... this DOESN'T mean that just because I love her and may spend the rest of my life with her - that I feel the same way as she does... and I don't have to be with her - but I am - it's just that simple !!!!

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It doesn't really have to be done, but I want to distance Christianity from Wright and his version of Black Liberation Theology.

Wright preaches hatred and bigotry towards an america that he views as the "Oppressor."

Jesus too was born into a deep oppression of the Jewish people by the Roman Empire. It was widely believed that the Messiah would free Israel from Rome. Contrarily, Jesus preached Love towards one's enimies and humility in the face of Opressors.

By looking at the teachings at Jesus, it it evident that Wright's teachings do not line up Jesus' and therefore do not reflect Christianity.

Conclusion: It would serve all parties best for Wright to shut up.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I would feel better if Rev. Wright were publicly executed. Then I could go back to my more normal routine of hating Hillary and bashing Ron Paul.
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I just cannot tolerate how someone would make fun of JFK's patriotism. I really hope he dies. I hope the man dies right now.
I hear you. JFK was a godsend for this nation. I've heard far too many scoff his most greatly emphasized principles--namely the quote in the video you provided which also happens to grace my signature.

Wright is a fool. His rhetoric and "ideology" serves no purpose but to stir up unnecessary trouble and conflict within this nation.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would feel better if Rev. Wright were publicly executed. Then I could go back to my more normal routine of hating Hillary and bashing Ron Paul.

Why?

You think he is making Obama look bad? Let's shoot the messenger and forget the message. Wright is what he is. It's Obama who has associated with him which reflects his choices should he ever be a Chief Executive. Just imagine his cabinet appointees????????????

I realize that you support Oprahma but wouldn't you rather he be exposed as the amateur that he is before having a chance to slip into the White House?
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Why?

You think he is making Obama look bad? Let's shoot the messenger and forget the message. Wright is what he is. It's Obama who has associated with him which reflects his choices should he ever be a Chief Executive. Just imagine his cabinet appointees????????????
I already said why he should be publicly executed. Your asking me to repeat myself is a nuisance.

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I realize that you support Oprahma but wouldn't you rather he be exposed as the amateur that he is before having a chance to slip into the White House?
Then your comments are ignorant. I'm actually leaning towards McCain, though I reserve the right to choose McCain, Obama or a 3rd party at any time up till I throw the lever on the ballot booth.

I'm not a fan of people winning or losing elections by bullshit politics; that's a Republican thing. People should win or lose on REAL issues and REAL qualifications.
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People should win or lose on REAL issues and REAL qualifications.

Sadly, Wright has become an issue. As for real qualifications, if that were the case, then IMHO,none of the 3 left standing would be there.

We have what we have and it is testament to the state of politics today as well as the apathy of the voters. I just don't get the anger toward Wright?? He is just another one of many blowhards who will fade away into obscurity.
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"In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President
John F. Kennedy's challenge to, "Ask not what your country can do for you,
but what you can do for your country," gave up his student deferment, left
college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.

In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the
Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide
medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and
became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to
the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital , as a member
of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President
Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery.

For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House
awarded him three letters of commendation.

What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy
not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.

While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President
Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/ sailor, received
five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and
one for being a prospective father.

Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than
the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in
college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family
connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to
serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat
the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something
or those who merely talk about their love of the country?

After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American
finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained as
a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of
America 's biggest cities.

This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United
Church of Christ.

He Earned the right to speak, just in case you may think that being an
American is not enough!"

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is Navy, Marine vet - snopes.com
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Insulting Kennedy should be a cardinal sin... and nobody makes fun of people because of their accents, it's only when they use poor grammar! I've never heard anyone, black or white, insulted for his accent...


And yeah, this is really hurting Obama. I obviously don't think Obama agrees with Wright, but to not distance himself more than he did (which wasn't much at all) is really unacceptable.
Southerners get made fun of because of their accent. Which reminds me, if I can find a sound bite, I'll post it up, but it is news coverage of a tornado victim, I think. His accent is so bad that when I heard it I laughed till I teared up a little.
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