Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

Have a look at the second clip on the bottom: RealClearPolitics - Video Log - McCain Sorry for Not Backing King Holiday

MLK got blacks freedom from second class citizenship in the US. Do Republicans find that to be something distasteful? It makes me wonder how the conservative base really feels about black people. Is it hostility or hate?

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Delta9

Interesting.. I never thought mccain was a scumbag but hearing him talk about it here makes me wonder. He claims hes proud of his voting record on MLK legislation yet he voted against it twice (once as a state holiday in 1987 and again as a federal in 1989) and voted to cut federal funding of it in 1994.

I don't think hes a racist, but I don't think hell ever garner support from black people. Or for that matter really put much effort in to help black people if he becomes president.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

That didn't sound like any straight talk to me. That sounded like bullshit. Not "aware of the issue?" The "issue" that blacks should not be segregated from America and deserved legal rights? McCain was shot down over Vietnam in 1967. The Civil Rights movement heyday was several years before that.

Sounds like bullshit. Bottom line seems to be: fuck the n*ggers.

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Shiva_TD

The arguments used by those that opposed honoring MLK with a federal holiday were generally based not on racism nor did they deny MLK's impact on the American society but simply on the fact that there have been many, many Americans that also accomplished great things in our nation. We do not honor them all with national holidays and many felt that MLK fell into the same catagory. We don't even have a Washington Day or a Linclon Day (although we do have a President's Day) and no other holiday is even dedicated to a specific American (Columbus was not an American).

So it is kind of unique that there is a MLK Day at all and many people forget that.

Of course federal holiday's mean little to most Americans that don't generally get these days off from work anyway. Generally it is more about not being able to go to the post office or finding someone to watch the kids because the schools are closed.

JimmyFord

Honestly, I would be 10 times more likely to support a holiday for gandhi than lincoln. Lincoln was a racist and a horrible president. Elementry school/High School History can't change history itself, and that man deserves no holiday. Washington doesn't really either. Colombus shouldn't have a holiday either. THAT is a holiday we should be getting rid of.

MLK jr. Should have a holiday because he didn't have some shady background or poor history like lincoln and colombus did. People like Lincoln, when looked at closely, can be seen for what they really are. They weren't the great men they were made out to be. MLK jr. was.

Caltex

Everyone has their Skeletons, including King. All you need to do is dig, and you'll find them. They include communist ties, philandering, plagiarizing, etc.

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JimmyFord

If the worst skeletons in your closet include plagiarizing your doctoral dissertation, then I would say you did a pretty good job. Yes he also probably had affairs. The communist ties were proven false. You can thank the FOIA for that.

Why don't you take a look into Lincoln's past or better yet, the things Colombus did. Did MLK jr. actions ever result in murder or the complete erosion of countless innocent peoples rights? MLK jr. did have skeletons, but you can't even compare them to people like Lincoln or Colombus.

Drake Equation

It is strange that there is a MLK day now that I think about it.

But then again I think it was probably in the interest of white elite America to make as big a deal as possible about King considering the alternative voices that existed in the 60s calling for other sorts of action in black communities.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I don't think Lincoln was a racist. I've seen some of his quotes before about his indifference on whether the Union remained free or slave. However, I believe that in his private life he was opposed to slavery. I'm not totally sure about that, but I've heard some things like that.

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JimmyFord

""I agree with Judge Douglas that he [a black] is not my equal in many respects, certainly not in color — perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments"
Was Abraham Lincoln a Racist?

I use to have a couple book references of speeches he gave. One showed him saying in a sense, if we could ship black people back to africa without them dying (because they wouldn't know how to survive in the africa wild), then he would do so.

He believed that they were human beings, and that they shouldn't be murdered or enslaved, but he did believe they were a lesser race of humans. To me, that sounds pretty racist.