Hillary attempts to disenfranchise voters - Page 2 - Political Forum

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 04-05-2008, 11:33 PM

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, but not in Florida.

By the way, is that a British carrier in your avatar or is it a US amphibious assault ship?

politicaldisgust · 04-05-2008, 11:43 PM

I think her words are just a way to stay relevant in a race she knows she is losing. like any other candidate she can say whatever she wants, even if it is absurd. Hopefully educated voters and educated delegates will disregard her "suggestions" and follow the rules.
I believe in the process and honestly feel that in the end the delegates will follow the rules and the correct person will win the nomination.

libertarian0507 · 04-05-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, but not in Florida.

By the way, is that a British carrier in your avatar or is it a US amphibious assault ship?

ok, Im a little confused, I thought that Obama was not on the ballot in Florida, is that not correct?
yes, you have a good eye, that is the multi-purpose amphibious assault ship USS Essex (LHD-2) Its my ship

I was somewhere in there when that photo was taken,lol

Caltex · 04-05-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian0507

ok, Im a little confused, I thought that Obama was not on the ballot in Florida, is that not correct?
yes, you have a good eye, that is the multi-purpose amphibious assault ship USS Essex (LHD-2) Its my ship

I was somewhere in there when that photo was taken,lol

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan. He was on the ballot in Florida.

libertarian0507 · 04-05-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Caltex

Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan. He was on the ballot in Florida.

ok, so I mixed those two up, my apologies .

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 04-06-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by libertarian0507

ok, Im a little confused, I thought that Obama was not on the ballot in Florida, is that not correct?
yes, you have a good eye, that is the multi-purpose amphibious assault ship USS Essex (LHD-2) Its my ship

I was somewhere in there when that photo was taken,lol

Thanks.

I'm a military technology/history enthusiast. I toured the USS Wasp when it came in for fleet week at NYC many years ago. It's amazing how most countries in the world cannot afford a ship like that. That ship would be considered a regular aircraft carrier by British and French standards.

libertarian0507 · 04-06-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Thanks.

I'm a military technology/history enthusiast. I toured the USS Wasp when it came in for fleet week at NYC many years ago. It's amazing how most countries in the world cannot afford a ship like that. That ship would be considered a regular aircraft carrier by British and French standards.

The Wasp, of which class we belong

Yes, its true that the US Navy is really unequaled in the world. A British aircraft carrier is easily identified by a long upward sloping flight deck. A Wasp class LHD is sort of a carrier, but it does not have arresting gear,which means that we can only carry helicopters and harrier jets because they can take off and land vertically. Its a pretty huge ship

Its not as cool though when you have to spend a couple months out to sea on it, it gets rather boring,lol

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 04-06-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by libertarian0507

The Wasp, of which class we belong

Yes, its true that the US Navy is really unequaled in the world. A British aircraft carrier is easily identified by a long upward sloping flight deck. A Wasp class LHD is sort of a carrier, but it does not have arresting gear,which means that we can only carry helicopters and harrier jets because they can take off and land vertically. Its a pretty huge ship

Its not as cool though when you have to spend a couple months out to sea on it, it gets rather boring,lol

Could be worse. You could have been stationed in a Los Angeles or Ohio class submarine.

libertarian0507 · 04-06-2008, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Could be worse. You could have been stationed in a Los Angeles or Ohio class submarine.

yeah,lol When I joined they wanted me to be a submariner, I turned them down on that one,lol Trapped under the ocean with no chance to see the light of day for weeks on end does not sound very appealing to me,lol

mkimkilop · 04-06-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

I'm not Obama. The forum rules say discuss the issue not your opponent. Unless you think I am Barack Obama, then there's no reason to leave the candidates out.

Obama did not disallow revotes. The Florida revote was out of the question. The entire state government there is Republican and they were the ones blocking the re-vote.

As for Michigan, that failed for two reasons: (1) a judge struck down a motion to find out who already voted, which was essential to having a re-vote and (2) they would not allow everyone to re-vote (they wanted to disqualify independents and repubs who voted in the first primary). So it's not that Obama would not allow a re-vote, but a judge stopped the re-vote and Hillary and the state laws prevented a fair revote.

Lastly, I believe you have failed to address Hillary's disenfranchising of voters here. Do you approve of disenfranchising voters to help Hillary?

Ok if Obama didn't disallow revotes than how come cnn said he did?

Second I'm not saying it's right for Hillary to disenfranchising votes, however what I'm asking is how is it fair for you to critisis her for disenfranchising voters. When he is doing the same thing in florida and michigan.

Third she offered to pay for revotes in flordia and michigan and flordias govener said ok(on an interveiw on CNN) but Obama and his people blocked the revote.

Lastly I don't approve of hilliary disenfranchising voters to help her. But how come you belive in disenfranching voters in florida and michigan to help Obama?