McCain prefers to run against Obama?...... - Political Forum

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-30-2008, 09:24 PM

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You be the judge.

francois60 · 03-30-2008, 11:00 PM

At this point I'd say Obama is the easier one to beat. McCain leads Obama by good margins in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida. Regardless of what the national popular vote polls say, Obama won't win if he loses all those states.

McCain has also pulled into the lead in Virginia.

tresha · 03-31-2008, 12:26 AM

I have wondered about the larger states that Clinton has won over Obama.
WEB, (or anyone else

) what are your thoughts on this?
If he gets the nomination (please God, please God, please God) can Obama get enough votes in states like Ohio, Ca, Ny etc...to beat McCain?

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-31-2008, 12:29 AM

It's too early to say. Obama has a different path to victory than Hillary.

Both Dems would probably lose Florida to McCain. Clinton is stronger than Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania. They may be about equal in strength in Michigan. Obama is conspicuously weak in New Jersey and Massachussets and Clinton is anemic in Wisconsin, Iowa, Washington, Oregon and Colorado. Obama's a bit stronger than Hillary in New Mexico, believe it or not.

When the Democrats go with Obama, it really comes down to those three big states: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. francois does have a point, even though it does leave out details on those other states.

tresha · 03-31-2008, 12:35 AM

Here in Texas, more voters turned out for the Dem. primary than voted in either of the last two presidential elections. I'd love to believe that means Texas might actually be in play for the Dems...course that could just be the drugs talking.

I've been saying for weeks now, "Texans had to choose between a woman candidate and a black candidate and still set records in the primary. It would appear the Republicans are fucked."

AzTeK · 03-31-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tresha

Here in Texas, more voters turned out for the Dem. primary than voted in either of the last two presidential elections. I'd love to believe that means Texas might actually be in play for the Dems...course that could just be the drugs talking.

I've been saying for weeks now, "Texans had to choose between a woman candidate and a black candidate and still set records in the primary. It would appear the Republicans are fucked."

Primary turnout unfortunately means nothing. You can look at every single elction in the past 3 decades, you'll always see that, generally speaking, there were always around twice as many democrats that voted in the primaries as republicans, and yet the Republicans managed to grasp the white-house after the usual 8-year cycle - with exception to Reagan/Bush Sr., who actually broke this cycle for the very first time sind WW2

If I remember correctly, only 2 times in history this cycle has been broken. FRD obviously and Reagan/Bush Sr. It is amazing that after such a failed administration as the Bush Jr. one is, the Republicans seem well positioned to take the white house yet again. The suicidal tendencies the DNC has developed over the past 8 years or some are amazing.

tresha · 03-31-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AzTeK

Primary turnout unfortunately means nothing. You can look at every single elction in the past 3 decades, you'll always see that, generally speaking, there were always around twice as many democrats that voted in the primaries as republicans, and yet the Republicans managed to grasp the white-house after the usual 8-year cycle - with exception to Reagan/Bush Sr., who actually broke this cycle for the very first time sind WW2

If I remember correctly, only 2 times in history this cycle has been broken. FRD obviously and Reagan/Bush Sr. It is amazing that after such a failed administration as the Bush Jr. one is, the Republicans seem well positioned to take the white house yet again. The suicidal tendencies the DNC has developed over the past 8 years or some are amazing.

Well I don't know that I was aware of the voters re: primaries vs. general election. That just depresses the hell out of me.
I'd feel better about McCain being president than any other republican in recent memory, but my first preference is still Obama.

AzTeK · 03-31-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tresha

Well I don't know that I was aware of the voters re: primaries vs. general election. That just depresses the hell out of me.
I'd feel better about McCain being president than any other republican in recent memory, but my first preference is still Obama.

Agreed.

Didn't the McCain camp not too far back say they'd rather run against Hillary?

Svante · 03-31-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

It's too early to say. Obama has a different path to victory than Hillary.

Both Dems would probably lose Florida to McCain. Clinton is stronger than Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania. They may be about equal in strength in Michigan. Obama is conspicuously weak in New Jersey and Massachussets and Clinton is anemic in Wisconsin, Iowa, Washington, Oregon and Colorado. Obama's a bit stronger than Hillary in New Mexico, believe it or not.

When the Democrats go with Obama, it really comes down to those three big states: Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. francois does have a point, even though it does leave out details on those other states.

Hillarybeast she attack Obama and this help Mccain lead the campagne. the poll show Mccain lead Hillarybeast 14% and Obama 10%. Obama h e must return attack o r what Hillarybeast say people think this are true. Mccain h e are Obama real opponent s o Hillarybeast she should quit campagne now o r she will destroy averything.

Freedom Rider · 03-31-2008, 08:37 PM

Hillary has been claiming she would fare better agains McCain in the electoral college vote, but analysis shows otherwise:

Experts Debunk Clinton's Electoral Vote Idea - US News and World Report

Frontloading HQ: Is the Electoral College really an Argument Clinton wants to make?

So the numbers indicate that its actually Obama who would fare better in a match-up against McCain.