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Hillary Clinton is a piece of shite, good chance of a convention brawl
Well, leave it to Hillary Clinton to class up the joint. It now seems that Mrs. Clinton is going to fight all the way into the convention in August, even if she gets her ass kicked in North Carolina and Indiana.
I havn't watched the news yet,
Man, that is bullshit I sure hate to hear that news.
Ah,Hell, don't get me wrong I'm not critisiseing the messenger only the message.
It's just the only possible way she can wi is the superdelegates, and that would mean overturning the popular vote and the regular delegates which would cause division.
The last thing the Democratic party needs now.
We all know Clinton is gonna get PA by like 10%. The question is what is going to happen in Indiana. North Carolina, Obama is doing well there in polls. Not much poll data out of Indiana, and Hillary has the very popular Evan Bayh on her side there.
I think it is really just obnoxious to try to drag this out further than May 6th. The super delegates could hang around till May 20th if they want, but we may see some interesting super delegate movement after May 6th.
It seems that the Credentials Committee of the Democrat Party (which I believe will have the final say on Michigan and Florida) is going to be pretty pro-Obama. Clinton is beating a dead horse and starting a civil war that she cannot win.
Donna Brazile Explains the Credentials Committee
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"I have no intention of stopping until we finish what we started, and until we see what happens in the next 10 contests, and until we resolve Florida and Michigan. And if we don't resolve it, we'll resolve it at the convention — that's what credentials committees are for," Clinton told the Post's Perry Bacon Jr. and Anne Kornblut.
If Dean is smart, he will prepare to assemble the Credentials Committee as soon as the last primary is done in June.
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Asked if there was a scenario in which she would drop out before the last primaries on June 3, Clinton said no. "I am committed to competing everywhere that there is an election," she said.
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Clinton on Saturday accused Obama of blocking a proposed Michigan revote. Party officials earlier this month cited problems with conducting another primary there, but Obama aides had previously detailed their concerns in a memo, which she called a "smoke screen."
"His campaign rejected the plan that was put forward," she said. "For the life of me, what Barack was afraid of in Michigan I will never understand."
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in an e-mail: "Sen. Obama is actually interested in and working towards a solution, unlike Clinton, who is trying to change the rules she agreed to and is more interested in potshots than solving this problem."
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Asked whether Obama could win in November, Clinton deflected the question. "I'm saying I have a better chance," she said. "You cannot as a Democrat win the White House without a very big women's vote. What I believe is that women will turn out for me."
WOW That's right you bitch, hold the women's vote hostage.
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Look at this. The recent guy that interviewed Hillary, and where Hillary took another swipe at Obama also was the same person who:
* Broke the story on an alleged scandal by Bill Clinton where he used Arkansas state troopers to arrange sexual liasons for him
* Accused Hillary of having her best friend Vince Foster murdered
* Accused Bill Clinton of being a drug dealer
Hillary sat down with an interview from the very man who said all these things about her (and she knew he had said them) just so she could take a shot at Obama.
Look at this. The recent guy that interviewed Hillary, and where Hillary took another swipe at Obama also was the same person who:
* Broke the story on an alleged scandal by Bill Clinton where he used Arkansas state troopers to arrange sexual liasons for him
* Accused Hillary of having her best friend Vince Foster murdered
* Accused Bill Clinton of being a drug dealer
Hillary sat down with an interview from the very man who said all these things about her (and she knew he had said them) just so she could take a shot at Obama.
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And if memory serves, these journalists were at the heart of the "Right-wing conspiracy" she claimed back in the 90's. Un-freakin'-real.
As for women turning out to vote for her--last time I checked, I be a woman and I'm gonna vote Obama no matter what.
Did you see the Countdown story indicating that senior Dems told her they would back her for NY Gov if she would just for God's sakes shut up and quit?
If it comes down to the superdelegates, do you guys really think they'll throw it to her, even if Obama is clearly ahead?
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Well, I think a Senator is actually higher up on the food chain than Governor. Although governor's tend to make better Presidential candidates.
As for your question on the supers, I think they'll have to give it to Obama. I think that as long as Obama keeps up something close to the margin he has in popular vote, the supers will have to give to him.
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WOW That's right you bitch, hold the women's vote hostage.
Well, to quote an old saying,you can be family freind, look good look bad, but business is business.
I do not think the women of America are that naive to vote for Clinton just bcause she's a woman, neither do I beleive that african Americans will vote for Obama just because he's black.
This is about who is the best person for the job and what's best for America, voting should never be personal it is what you can do for America not who you are.
I myself support Obama because I think he would do a better job as president nothing more.
Hillary Clinton is a piece of shite, good chance of a convention brawl
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