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03-23-2008, 06:03 PM
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I read other news sources
However, beating up on Fox has become the cool thing too do I really do not
think you watch it all that much because if you did you would see that it is truly not as bad as the far left claims. If you really watch Bill’s show you would see that yes he is conservative on a lot of things but he also sides with democrats when it comes to a lot of things.
He has said the Iraq war was a mistake; he went after the vets who attacked Kerry in 2004. He went after Ann C there are many times were he has done stuff you would agree with probably.
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His beliefs aren't the problem regardless of who he sides with, his dishonesty and actions are the problem.
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They have left wing people on their all the time, and I’m sorry but just because one person goes on the air and said a dumb thing dose not mean the network is run by bad people.
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One person?
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lol. that one Republican Congressmen with his own show does not discredit your claims of MSNBC being biased yet here is your own thread. Clearly you think that having one obscure reporter from MSNBC say that it is hard to be objective about one presidential candidate that happens to be a Democrat is proof of MSNBC's liberal bias and in fact is akin to an admission of bias by MSNBC itself, yet when I point out that MSNBC has a Republican with his own show (two actually) that isn't enough.
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03-24-2008, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vandal
His beliefs aren't the problem regardless of who he sides with, his dishonesty and actions are the problem.
One person?
lol. that one Republican Congressmen with his own show does not discredit your claims of MSNBC being biased yet here is your own thread. Clearly you think that having one obscure reporter from MSNBC say that it is hard to be objective about one presidential candidate that happens to be a Democrat is proof of MSNBC's liberal bias and in fact is akin to an admission of bias by MSNBC itself, yet when I point out that MSNBC has a Republican with his own show (two actually) that isn't enough.
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Look, I really do not think you watch Fox that Republican Congressmen you mentioned does not have a show any more. I doubt you watch Bill O I doubt you watch most of show because if you did you would no that he is not the evil person you make him out to be.
His ideas and opinions are reasonable and I have seen him hold both sides’ feet to the fire. Look, everyone knows Fox is more right wing then all the other networks but that is not a bad thing considering most of the other networks are left wing. Fox does a good job giving more conservative people like me a break. They also give the left voices now are they perfectly balanced probably not. However, are they this evil network since to push the Neocon agenda? No
MSNBC is biased they clearly do not want a Republican to win next year; they have people like the host of Hardball and Countdown who take ceap shots at Bush all the time. After Bush announced the surge, they had three guests on who all opposed Bush’s plan
They had one guest call Bush insane and Keith O has rants about what a bad person Bush is from time to time. In addition, Tucker does not have a show on their anymore he has bean replaced by a left wing reporter. MSNBC dose have its own agenda and they are biased
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03-24-2008, 05:59 PM
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...that Republican Congressmen you mentioned does not have a show any more...
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Are you talking about the republican congressman who had one of his office workers mysteriously turn up dead in his office? Joe Scarborough? His "Scarborough Country" show is off the air, but he has another show called "Morning Joe" on MSNBC now.
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03-24-2008, 11:53 PM
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Are you talking about the republican congressman who had one of his office workers mysteriously turn up dead in his office? Joe Scarborough? His "Scarborough Country" show is off the air, but he has another show called "Morning Joe" on MSNBC now.
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No I’m talking about John Kasank[sp] he had a show on FOX
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03-25-2008, 12:23 AM
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Look, I really do not think you watch Fox that Republican Congressmen you mentioned does not have a show any more. I doubt you watch Bill O I doubt you watch most of show because if you did you would no that he is not the evil person you make him out to be.
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I wasn't talking about Fox I was talking about Joe Scarborough from MSNBC.
I didn't call Bill O Reilly an evil person, what I did say is that he like most people at Fox are liars and deceitful. Do you deny that? I have plenty of outright lies made by Reilly that cannot be taken out of context.
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His ideas and opinions are reasonable and I have seen him hold both sides’ feet to the fire.
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Bill's opinions aren't the problem, as I said before it is his lies and his actions.
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Look, everyone knows Fox is more right wing then all the other networks but that is not a bad thing considering most of the other networks are left wing. Fox does a good job giving more conservative people like me a break. They also give the left voices now are they perfectly balanced probably not. However, are they this evil network since to push the Neocon agenda? No
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Actually Rupert Murdock admitted that his objective during the run up to the Iraq War was to push what some might call a neocon agenda. Like promoting the war for instance.
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MSNBC is biased they clearly do not want a Republican to win next year; they have people like the host of Hardball and Countdown who take ceap shots at Bush all the time. After Bush announced the surge, they had three guests on who all opposed Bush’s plan
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You forgot the other guy, Scarborough (and in the very recent past Tucker) who also have shows on MSNBC and put on radio talkshow hosts and Pat Buchanon.
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They had one guest call Bush insane and Keith O has rants about what a bad person Bush is from time to time. In addition, Tucker does not have a show on their anymore he has bean replaced by a left wing reporter. MSNBC dose have its own agenda and they are biased
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Tucker was replaced after having his own show for like four gears or more and happens to be replaced by what you consider to be a lefty.
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03-25-2008, 10:01 AM
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According to the Bible, the anti-Christ will be the man who strikes a peace treaty with many for a period of 7 years (Daniel 9:27), and who sits in the Temple exalting himself above God (2 Thessolonians 2:3). This event is known as the Abomination of Desolation. That much is agreed upon by mainstream Christianity. But the Jewish Temple has not stood upon the Temple Mount in East Jerusalem since 70 A.D. and is yet to be rebuilt, which means there can be no "Abomination of Desolation" without it. Most Christians understood that we won't know who the anti-Christ is until those events happen. So until then, any speculation about who is the anti-Christ is nothing more than personal guessing games (based upon egotism) that do more damage to the credibility of this whole concept than anything else, making it seem like the Boy Who Cried Wolf.
It must be remembered that Glenn Beck is a Mormon, and that he gets carried away with sensationalism from time to time. Other than that, I really don't mind watching his show.
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03-25-2008, 01:52 PM
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Knight
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I wasn't talking about Fox I was talking about Joe Scarborough from MSNBC.
I didn't call Bill O Reilly an evil person, what I did say is that he like most people at Fox are liars and deceitful. Do you deny that? I have plenty of outright lies made by Reilly that cannot be taken out of context.
Bill's opinions aren't the problem, as I said before it is his lies and his actions.
Actually Rupert Murdock admitted that his objective during the run up to the Iraq War was to push what some might call a neocon agenda. Like promoting the war for instance.
You forgot the other guy, Scarborough (and in the very recent past Tucker) who also have shows on MSNBC and put on radio talkshow hosts and Pat Buchanon.
Tucker was replaced after having his own show for like four gears or more and happens to be replaced by what you consider to be a lefty.
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Show me the tapes.
Really where did Rupert Murdock say that?
Scarborough bashed Bush a lot in 2006 and call for a withdrew from Iraq Buchanon bashed Bush and Iraq all the time. I like the guy a lot but they never really giving pro war conservatives a voice over at MSNBC. It is almost as they bring anti-Bush conservatives to make Bush seam out of the loop
You do not think David G a lefty
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Tim-"I assume you have a long list of benevolent nations and peoples who circle the globe, bestowing gifts on the human race from the purest of motives - in contrast with those terrible Americans, whose motives and behavior are always suspect"? :rolleyes
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03-25-2008, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Vandal
What a relief. It's as if Glen Beck's ignorant viewership and perhaps even Glenn himself needed confirmation by a right-wing radical priest to come to the realization that Obama wasn't the anti-christ.
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Of course he's not the anti-Christ. He's the Manchurian Candidate. 
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