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03-23-2008, 12:46 PM
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Knight
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WEB No but if you watch Glen a lot like I do you know he makes a serious point well over doing it. The fact is the fed bail out did have aspects of Socialism in it the government saving people who had made bad choices when it comes to their homes everyone else having to fit the bill for the “good of everyone”
Anyway, I think his point was because of the push for Universal healthcare and Universal Pre-K we are indeed heading down that road.
Look I know beating up on right wing host is a fun thing to do for some of you on this cite but most of the people on the air are good people and anyone who listens to them on a regular basses would know that.
Now there are a few I cant stand
Ann C
Mike S
Bill C
All could just stop talking
But the most popular are good people and this beat up on every Conservative with a microphone or on Fox is getting old.
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Tim-"I assume you have a long list of benevolent nations and peoples who circle the globe, bestowing gifts on the human race from the purest of motives - in contrast with those terrible Americans, whose motives and behavior are always suspect"? :rolleyes
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03-23-2008, 12:48 PM
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Knight
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Originally Posted by Vandal
Did you see his interview of Elison?
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no can you show me
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Tim-"I assume you have a long list of benevolent nations and peoples who circle the globe, bestowing gifts on the human race from the purest of motives - in contrast with those terrible Americans, whose motives and behavior are always suspect"? :rolleyes
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03-23-2008, 01:04 PM
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03-23-2008, 01:11 PM
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Squire
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Originally Posted by Hotduck
WEB No but if you watch Glen a lot like I do you know he makes a serious point well over doing it. The fact is the fed bail out did have aspects of Socialism in it the government saving people who had made bad choices when it comes to their homes everyone else having to fit the bill for the “good of everyone”
Anyway, I think his point was because of the push for Universal healthcare and Universal Pre-K we are indeed heading down that road.
Look I know beating up on right wing host is a fun thing to do for some of you on this cite but most of the people on the air are good people and anyone who listens to them on a regular basses would know that.
Now there are a few I cant stand
Ann C
Mike S
Bill C
All could just stop talking
But the most popular are good people and this beat up on every Conservative with a microphone or on Fox is getting old.
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Fox News' deceptive attempts to portray themselves as fair and balance, while claiming left wing bias on part of other major news stations and not even attempting to hide their own bias except through words does not make them good people. I've seen their shows, I've watched them cut off mikes of people they don't like, I've seen people's comments be stated WAY out of context as to suggest that a Democrat was a cocaine addict, I've seen their favorite guests spit racial hatred, I've heard them avoid saying Scooter Libby was convicted even when that's the word that fits their sentence and I have dozens of videos to back it up. The people on Fox are not good people.
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03-23-2008, 01:42 PM
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I was the first to post on here about Bear Stearns. I am scared to death of the implications but I don't see Socialism in the mix, I see Oligarchy in the mix.
In many ways this country already IS a thriving Oligarchy.
Beck isn't playing with a full deck. IMO.
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03-23-2008, 02:37 PM
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Knight
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Originally Posted by Vandal
Fox News' deceptive attempts to portray themselves as fair and balance, while claiming left wing bias on part of other major news stations and not even attempting to hide their own bias except through words does not make them good people. I've seen their shows, I've watched them cut off mikes of people they don't like, I've seen people's comments be stated WAY out of context as to suggest that a Democrat was a cocaine addict, I've seen their favorite guests spit racial hatred, I've heard them avoid saying Scooter Libby was convicted even when that's the word that fits their sentence and I have dozens of videos to back it up. The people on Fox are not good people.
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You have dozens of videos made by people on the far left who take the things some people on Fox say out of context. No one on Fox has ever said anything raciest, I have seen Bill O cut off one-person mic I have never seen anyone else on Fox do that.
Look, theirs no doubt that Fox is more right wing, but their not nearly as bad as MSNBC, Fox does let people with left wing points of view on anyone that watched it knows that
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03-23-2008, 03:20 PM
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Squire
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Originally Posted by Hotduck
You have dozens of videos made by people on the far left who take the things some people on Fox say out of context.
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You can't take outright lies out of context such as O'reilly lying about the number of Democrats being of on Fox outnumbering Republicans and Fox and Friends editing an episode of the Colbert show to make it seem like a Democrat is a crack addict and then saying he's a crack addict themselves.
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No one on Fox has ever said anything raciest,
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No, their beloved guests are the ones who do.
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I have seen Bill O cut off one-person mic I have never seen anyone else on Fox do that.
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I was talking about Bill O Reilly
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Look, theirs no doubt that Fox is more right wing, but their not nearly as bad as MSNBC, Fox does let people with left wing points of view on anyone that watched it knows that
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Really? How do you even make such a claim with a former Republican senator having his own show there?
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03-23-2008, 03:33 PM
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He looked serious to me. Do you really think the Fed bail out is a socialist take over?
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No I don't. But do worry the next president will fulfill what you and I fear the most. That is why I want to hear more on the real issues not the party line.
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03-23-2008, 03:59 PM
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If one can't hear or read between the lines then us your choice and search out a better news source. If I might suggest several.
US News & World Report - Breaking News, World News, Business News, and America's Best Colleges - USNews.com
News and Views from The Times and Sunday Times | Times Online
Yahoo!
CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News
News - Telegraph
FRONTLINE: cheney's law | PBS
The Raw Story | A rational voice - Alternative news
C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics
News, Travel, Weather, Entertainment, Sports, Technology, U.S. & World - USATODAY.com
The Seattle Times | Seattle Times Newspaper
Military Space News, Nuclear Weapons, Missile Defense
Pittsburgh News, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania News, Weather & Sports - WTAE Pittsburgh's Channel 4
Independent Media Center | www.indymedia.org | ((( i )))
Tucson Weekly : The Alternative to Bland Daily Journalism in the Sonoran Desert
ordnance.org
Business with Reuters - International Herald Tribune
Or one can choose from any paper in the world at this site.
Newspapers of the World - Newslink
Or my locals all 4, which have nation and world news..
KSN.com - News, Weather, Sports - NBC - Wichita - Great Bend - Garden City - McCook - Kansas
WIBW - HomePage wibw kansas news leader, kansas weather, kansas sports, breaking news, and video from topeka, lawrence, manhatten, emporia, salina, and junction city
KTKA 49 News Topeka - KTKA.com
CJOnline
Hope this helps someone....
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Originally Posted by Vandal
You can't take outright lies out of context such as O'reilly lying about the number of Democrats being of on Fox outnumbering Republicans and Fox and Friends editing an episode of the Colbert show to make it seem like a Democrat is a crack addict and then saying he's a crack addict themselves.
No, their beloved guests are the ones who do.
I was talking about Bill O Reilly
Really? How do you even make such a claim with a former Republican senator having his own show there?
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03-23-2008, 05:33 PM
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Knight
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandal
You can't take outright lies out of context such as O'reilly lying about the number of Democrats being of on Fox outnumbering Republicans and Fox and Friends editing an episode of the Colbert show to make it seem like a Democrat is a crack addict and then saying he's a crack addict themselves.
No, their beloved guests are the ones who do.
I was talking about Bill O Reilly
Really? How do you even make such a claim with a former Republican senator having his own show there?
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I read other news sources
However, beating up on Fox has become the cool thing too do I really do not think you watch it all that much because if you did you would see that it is truly not as bad as the far left claims. If you really watch Bill’s show you would see that yes he is conservative on a lot of things but he also sides with democrats when it comes to a lot of things.
He has said the Iraq war was a mistake; he went after the vets who attacked Kerry in 2004. He went after Ann C there are many times were he has done stuff you would agree with probably.
They have left wing people on their all the time, and I’m sorry but just because one person goes on the air and said a dumb thing dose not mean the network is run by bad people.
MSNBC has a former Republican Congressmen with his own show
So what’s your point
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Tim-"I assume you have a long list of benevolent nations and peoples who circle the globe, bestowing gifts on the human race from the purest of motives - in contrast with those terrible Americans, whose motives and behavior are always suspect"? :rolleyes
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