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Troianii · 03-07-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

You think Obama would be doing the slaughtering?

The thing is that Obama is an unknown quantity mainly due to his lack of experience. You never know how that my come around to bite him in the ass.

To be really blunt, white people might go along with an experienced black guy, whose rhetoric and policies they agree with. However, the lack of experience could make it a bridge too far. It seems Obama has race and also his middle and last name working against him to some extent.

Race isn't working against him. A WSJ frontpage article showed that roughly 17/20 voters would be happy or excited about a black candidate. Those 3/20 who either don't care about race or don't want a black candidate are in the minority. However, Hussein and Obama are names that can work against him, and I think that calling useage of his own birthname a smear attack doesn't help much.

Mr. Logic · 03-07-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedom Rider

LOL! You've got to be kidding. Ron Paul royally spanked Giuliani throughout the primaries for the most part. Just look at the results for the first six states:

Iowa
Ron Paul 11,817 10%
Rudy Giuliani 4,097 4%

Michigan
Ron Paul 54,434 6%
Rudy Giuliani 24,706 3%

Nevada
Ron Paul 6,077 state delegates 14%
Rudy Giuliani 1,907 state delegates 4%

South Carolina (93% in)
Ron Paul 15,235 4%
Rudy Giuliani 8,518 2%

New Hampshire
Rudy Giuliani 20,395 9%
Ron Paul 18,303 8%

Total votes through six early states:
Ron Paul 99,789 votes
Rudy Giuliani 57,716 votes

Throw in the 15% Giuliani earned in FLorida and I think that'll tie it up some....

TokenLiberal · 03-07-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Troianii

Race isn't working against him. A WSJ frontpage article showed that roughly 17/20 voters would be happy or excited about a black candidate. Those 3/20 who either don't care about race or don't want a black candidate are in the minority. However, Hussein and Obama are names that can work against him, and I think that calling useage of his own birthname a smear attack doesn't help much.

Well, I think calling it a smear attack is justified by its use. In cases like that of Ann Coulter or Rush, they're using "B. Hussein Obama" to imply that he is Muslim, and thus arouse fear of a Muslim presidency.

As for the whole race issue, I really don't think its as big as you make it out to be, WEB. I saw somewhere a poll that demonstrated people would be more willing to vote for a black man than a woman, so if there is bias, I would guess it works more against Hillary than it does against Obama.