Rasmussen: McCain Ahead in Washington State - Political Forum

SamInTheSouth · 03-06-2008, 08:54 PM

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The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely Washington state voters finds John McCain and Barack Obama essentially tied in a general election match-up. McCain leads Obama 45% to 44%.

McCain tops Hillary Clinton 48% to 40% in the Evergreen State.

McCain also has a modest lead over both Democrats nationally in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

Rasmussen Reports

I realize polls this early really don't mean much at all, but I had to post it just because I'm getting tired of the Obama supporters being so bragadocious over their new Messiah. Knock them down a few pegs.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-06-2008, 09:29 PM

There's not going to be much bragging from the Obama campaign that I can see in the forseeable future. As I've posted elsewhere, I think Obama is basically going to have a mathematical victory, while losing in states like Pennsylvania and (depending if their are caucuses or not) we don't know how it will go in Michigan and Florida.

The "11 straight" days are over. Well-informed people know pretty much how the next 12 contests play out.

WEB

superdude17* · 03-06-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

There's not going to be much bragging from the Obama campaign that I can see in the forseeable future. As I've posted elsewhere, I think Obama is basically going to have a mathematical victory, while losing in states like Pennsylvania and (depending if their are caucuses or not) we don't know how it will go in Michigan and Florida.

The "11 straight" days are over. Well-informed people know pretty much how the next 12 contests play out.

WEB

Obama will lose in Florida (Hispanics yet again), Michigan (he didn't even enter the first time, why should Michigan residents love him all of a sudden?) and he won't win North Carolina. He is done. He had his chance. The media is against him, he has the worst possible aids and advisers possible. The superdelegates will start switching back to Hillary very soon. College voters will go with the popular candidate, which is now Hillary. Obama is officially done. it would be wise to drop out and give the candidacy to Hillary so she can start focusing on McCain and the presidency. She is the only chance the Democrat party has.

Dude

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-06-2008, 10:52 PM

You also said that Giuliani would win in Florida. He came in a distant third.

You also implied that Obama could not carry New York, Massachussets and California in the general election, which is laughable. Those are all liberal states which most Democrats could carry in the general.

So your predictions on the races are extremely inaccurate and are not credible.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-06-2008, 11:03 PM

I'll say this, if you look at the most recent poll in NC, it's a lot closer than I expected:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - North Carolina Democratic Primary

PPP (D) 03/03 - 03/03
Clinton: 43
Obama: 47
Obama +4.0

superdude17* · 03-06-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

You also said that Giuliani would win in Florida. He came in a distant third.

You also implied that Obama could not carry New York, Massachussets and California in the general election, which is laughable. Those are all liberal states which most Democrats could carry in the general.

So your predictions on the races are extremely inaccurate and are not credible.

Yes, I assumed wrong. However, I wouldn't want to go into what I believe you already know, but as we saw in Texas, let's just say Hillary will take Florida. The Cuban Americans there are much more conservative than Obama's liking.

McCain is a liberal republican. He will swing many moderate democrats and independents if Obama is the liberal democrat candidate

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 03-06-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by superdude17*

Yes, I assumed wrong. However, I wouldn't want to go into what I believe you already know, but as we saw in Texas, let's just say Hillary will take Florida. The Cuban Americans there are much more conservative than Obama's liking.

No, please go into it. You don't have anything that I can't hit out of the park.

francois60 · 03-07-2008, 12:29 AM

I actually have to predict that Clinton has a shot at winning this thing now.

The path to the nomination is not with the pledged delegates. It's with the overall popular vote. Obama leads by 500,000 or so.

If Clinton can overtake Obama in the popular vote, which is very possible, then the superdelegates have all the excuse they need to do what they want to do, which is vote for Clinton.

SamInTheSouth · 03-07-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

I'll say this, if you look at the most recent poll in NC, it's a lot closer than I expected:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - North Carolina Democratic Primary

PPP (D) 03/03 - 03/03
Clinton: 43
Obama: 47
Obama +4.0

That is surprising. I have been expecting Obama to win North Carolina fairly easily.

SamInTheSouth · 03-07-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by francois60

I actually have to predict that Clinton has a shot at winning this thing now.

The path to the nomination is not with the pledged delegates. It's with the overall popular vote. Obama leads by 500,000 or so.

If Clinton can overtake Obama in the popular vote, which is very possible, then the superdelegates have all the excuse they need to do what they want to do, which is vote for Clinton.

I have never counted Hillary out of this. The Clintons are not accustomed to losing.