A government health plan does not work and its been proven.

Health care is part of the market system and usually when the government get involved in the market things go wrong.

If it happens we will start to loose resources and the quality of our resources will greatly decline.

for instance when I had cancer I remember having to sit in the waiting room for hours after I got checked in to get an MRI that took another hour. In Louisville alone there were several MRI stations but it was still so overloaded that I had to wait that long. If Government gets involved They usually set a number and say each state gets 5 MRI stations. So Now there would be a shortage in what is demanded and that would force the place to turn people away and if there was room I would probably had to drive several miles to get there. If people complain they would say hey You got your 5 too bad. It would be like this for all areas of health care.

Today there is compitition between hospistals striveing to be the best and have the best service for you. Government comes in and we loose all of that and the quallity of our health care go's down the drain.

Finally I had to travel a lot to see specialist with government intervention the specialist go away so in order to get what I need I would have to take money out of my pocket and buy a plane ticket to some other country and pay for the service there. Like people are doing now comeing to america for proper health care.

so even though it sounds good its more of an emotional plea than an good helpful idea

Most if not all of these countries have government run health care, and it doesn't seem to have effected their ability to provide quality health care:

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica

This one doesn't.

37 United States of America

Why is it that the country with by FAR the highest expenditure on health care as a function of GDP is ranked #37 in quality of care?

How can it be that with a government run health care system, Australians live, on average, 2.6 years longer than Americans and have roughly a 1/3 lower infant mortality rate?

How is it that with a government health system, the Czech Republic has an infant mortality rate slightly over 1/2 of the US's, and has an annual economic growth rate nearly twice that of the US?

How can Japan, with their government run health care system, have the highest life expectancy in the world, and one of the lowest infant mortality rates? Their total health spending accounted for just 7.9% of GDP, compared to 15% in the US (the highest in the world, followed by Switzerland at 11.5%). That means Japan spends 1/2 as much on health care as the US, but gets better results. Health spending per capita rose on average by 3% in real terms in Japan over the past five years, less than the U.S. rate of 4.6%. The numbers of physicians and nurses in the industry are comparable, belying the axiom that doctors will not doctor under a public system.

Japan has the highest number of “acute care” hospital beds, with 8.5 beds per 1 000 population. Compare that to the US with 2.8 beds per 1 000 population. In 2002, Japan had by far the highest number of CT and MRI scanners per capita, with 93 CT scanners per million population and 35 MRI units.

Japan has the lowest obesity rate at 3%. The US has the highest at 31%.

So just who is getting a better deal for their health care dollar? The hard facts from around the world disprove your argument.

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many people from those countries Like people I ran into traveled to the us for healthcare.

I stopped reading there. No point in spending more time on a thread that starts out with wrong facts.

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Which countries?

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now i came across google and saw this thread and DROVE ME INSANE....HEALTHCARE IN AMERICA WONT WORK!!! YES! hes right...are you willing to give up quantity and quality ? and have the government take more money...heres 1 messed up fact...in the STATE of Ohio ALONE...theres more MRI machines than all of canada. WIERD?


Now if the democrats pass healthcare thats less money for people to spend...our economy runs on people spending their money...so not only will your pay checks hurt but the big companys will hurt if the shelves stay full.

Simple as this...if healthcare passes with the gas rising we wont have our "toys" so elect obama and or hillbill and we will all see what happens

Yeah then somebody is gonna say WELL WHAT THE HELL I CANT AFFORD INSURANCE!!! WE NEED HEALTHCARE...

well when was the last time a hosipital has rejected anybody?

my mother got a $250,000 brain operation....she paid nothing..

OUR SYSTEM WORKS ITS JUST YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND!!!

Example lets say you need a heart...but have to wait 4-6 months...funny..most likely your dead!

if your so worried about healthcare i have an EASIER WAY ..stop eating fast food simple as that.

I'll ask you the same question I asked the OP:

How is it possible that the countries listed #1-36 have better healthcare than the US? Are they really that much smarter than us? Most of the countries listed above the US have economies that are humming along quite nicely as long as they weren't heavily invested in the sub-prime US housing market. Your economic argument is disproved by observable conditions in countries that have healthcare programs yet have not experienced an economic downturn as a result.

I'll bet you the residents of Ohio pay more for their MRIs than all of the Canadians combined.

In other words, it's OK for your mother (glad she's OK by the way) to receive a $250,000 operation at someone else's expense, but it's not OK for you to pay into a healthcare fund to provide that service universally? You completely shatter your argument in that one statement. If your mother didn't pay for her operation, who did? It wasn't free. The doctors all got paid. The nurses and orderlies all got paid. The drug companies got paid. Who paid them? If it wasn't an insurance company (which I suspect it wasn't since she paid nothing) then was it MediCare or MediCaid? If so, I'm glad I could be of assistance. Did she just do what most uninsured Americans do and just tell the hospital "too bad, no insurance?" and let the hospital pass the costs on to the insurance companies that pay for the rest of us and boost the cost along the way?

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"How can Japan, with their government run health care system, have the highest life expectancy in the world, and one of the lowest infant mortality rates? Their total health spending accounted for just 7.9% of GDP, compared to 15% in the US (the highest in the world, followed by Switzerland at 11.5%). That means Japan spends 1/2 as much on health care as the US, but gets better results. Health spending per capita rose on average by 3% in real terms in Japan over the past five years, less than the U.S. rate of 4.6%. The numbers of physicians and nurses in the industry are comparable, belying the axiom that doctors will not doctor under a public system.



Japan has the highest number of “acute care” hospital beds, with 8.5 beds per 1 000 population. Compare that to the US with 2.8 beds per 1 000 population. In 2002, Japan had by far the highest number of CT and MRI scanners per capita, with 93 CT scanners per million population and 35 MRI units.

Japan has the lowest obesity rate at 3%. The US has the highest at 31%."



HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS ....JAPAN ALSO HAS A 4.1% unemployment...THEY ARE A DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT TYPE!!!get this through your head...

obsecity? whos fault is this? NOT the USA its your fault for being easily tricked by the media..now simple as this eat healthy and we wouldnt be obese . Remember this quote...

"Theres no such thing as a free lunch" eventually down the line we all pay for losses....