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03-02-2008, 09:20 AM
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clinton's racism
The only reason that Clinton is gaining momentum is that she has found America's weakest point. She has tapped into that old fear of race that we thought Obama had proven no longer exist. Notice her language has shifted. She no longer says, “who would you want in the White House?” Instead the senator now brings that dormant racist undercurrent by stating that this is like an employment application and that the question is, “who would you give the job to?” Or “who would you hire?” The best example of Clinton’s racism is the fact that she deliberately implied the N word in her commercial. No intelligent person can actually believe that the Clinton’s machine use of that NIG word in her commercial was unintentional. Only a fool would believe that. So what does this say about the Clintons? It basically reminds us that they would do anything to win--even destroy the small amount of progress that we Americans have made on the racial front. However, the most important question to ponder is “if they are willing to go this far to win the election, what else will the Clintons not hesitate to do to maintain power once they get into the White House?”
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03-02-2008, 09:33 AM
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While there is no doubt in my mind that Hilary Clinton would no hesistate to play dirty, I don't think she has been implying the race card in her speeches. I think its a collaboration of things such as lack of experience, and a more assured word than a bunch of promises. No, if she were smart she would play among the greater paranoia of this country which are the radical muslims. If she wanted to hit Obama hard (which she supposedly already has) she'll play upon his religion rather his color. But there is no reason to be outraged in dirty politics. The mere notion of that is laughable.
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03-02-2008, 10:21 AM
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Clinton knows that the radical muslim fear is too obvious and would turn voters away. What she also knows is that the racism in the US is much more engraved in the American subconscious than any other social conditioning. Most white Americans are not even aware of the fundamental ways that they are racist. This notion is only laughable to a white person, or a person who did not grow up in the US. Which are you, and please don't bother telling me that you're black; that wont fly.
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03-02-2008, 12:01 PM
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What is the text of this Clinton commercial you claim to be racist? So we can all judge for ourselves.
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03-02-2008, 12:28 PM
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I beleive a description of the commercial Creole is talking about can be found in this link
Right Wing Nut House » CLINTON COMMERCIAL TAGGED “RACIST”
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The Clinton campaign today apologized to Barack Obama for what it called “an inadvertent slip” in one of its ads that ran during the run up to Super Tuesday.
The ad portrayed Hillary Clinton walking and greeting voters on a street in a small New Hampshire town.
However, photo enhancement techniques employed by bloggers zeroed in on a house down the street shown in the background. Then, using similar technology developed by analysts at the National Reconnaissance Office for our spy satellites, it was discovered that the house in question had a racist lawn ornament – a small, black jockey known in the lawn ornament trade as “Jocko.”
“This was a clear and deliberate attempt to bring race into the campaign,” said blogger Ann Althouse.
“It’s almost as blatant as subliminally using part of the word N***er in an otherwise harmless ad.”
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If it takes analysts with spy satellites to decipher an implied meanining within a campaign commercial, I'm not quite sure any significant subliminal message will be sent to the general public. Then again, maybe they know some secret jedi mind trick that I don't...
Or, of course, it could also be this commercial since they both seem to be all over the internet.
Subliminal “NIG” Message in Hillary Clinton Ad … Some People Need to Have Their Heads Examined | Scared Monkeys
Anyways, Creole, it seems that you made implications based off of misinterpretations. When I said that "the mere notion of that was laughable" I was emphasising the latter statement in which I was suprised that you were so outraged at dirty politics. If you think Clinton is doing something wrong in the Primaries, then just wait for the actual election.
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03-02-2008, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Spm150
If she wanted to hit Obama hard (which she supposedly already has) she'll play upon his religion rather his color.
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She couldn't do that without pissing off every Protestant Christian in the US. He isn't a Muslim, you know.
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03-02-2008, 01:22 PM
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hillary clinton has done so much for the state of new york, the state i used to live in, and still have family that lives there. she has been a great senator, and to be honest, would be the only democrat, other than joseph biden, that i wouldn't mind seeing as president. these two want to stay on the offensive on the wot. she backed the war on iraq...so what.
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03-02-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by superdude17*
hillary clinton has done so much for the state of new york, the state i used to live in, and still have family that lives there. she has been a great senator, and to be honest, would be the only democrat, other than joseph biden, that i wouldn't mind seeing as president. these two want to stay on the offensive on the wot. she backed the war on iraq...so what.
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You changed positions on Hillary so fast, you must've gotten whiplash...
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03-02-2008, 02:39 PM
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It is indeed very sad, that after so much progress has been made in America over the past race problems there, that anyone, even more so someone in such a position, would even accidentally say anything which could be perceived as racist. Accident? sounds more like a 'Freudan' slip to me. Sad, so sad.
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03-02-2008, 03:33 PM
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Here's Jocko:
I lean somewhat against calling this racism on the Clinton's part. I wouldn't put it past the Clinton's given that they have resorted to racism and racial division in this campaign, but if you're a candidate for POTUS, who is paying attention to the shit on people's lawn?
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