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Old 02-14-2008, 06:20 PM
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Exclamation A President McCain will heal and bring America back as one nation.

I feel a John McCain Presidency will bring healing to the entire United States
of America. We must all realize that John McCain is the best suited person to
fill this position of President of the United States of America.He has international and domestic experience and he knows how Washington works inside and out.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:05 PM
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I feel a John McCain Presidency will bring healing to the entire United States
of America. We must all realize that John McCain is the best suited person to
fill this position of President of the United States of America.He has international and domestic experience and he knows how Washington works inside and out.
I disagree. I do not think he is the best man for the job, but right now we do not have allot of good choices period. It is like the South Park episode when they were choosing a mascot between a Douche bag and a turd sandwich. Seriously though, he has admitted himself he does not understand economics as well as he should. Considering where our economy is right now, that is a troubling fact.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:31 PM
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Listen impotent waffle, I tell you given the choices Sen John McCain is the best person for the Job of President of the United States.Vote for him
you will be glad you did.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:36 PM
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Listen impotent waffle, I tell you given the choices Sen John McCain is the best person for the Job of President of the United States.Vote for him
you will be glad you did.
No thanks I will make my own decisions.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:56 PM
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I'm voting for McCain because he's (gonna be) the republican nominee. But at this point in the game, i'm not voting for McCain, i'm voting against Hillary and Obama. I would have rather seen Giuliani or Thomson in the general election. I think many conservatives feel the same way.
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Approximately 70% of Americans oppose the continued occupation of Iraq by the United States and McCain supports staying there for the next 100 years? Hardly a uniting president.
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I disagree. I do not think he is the best man for the job, but right now we do not have allot of good choices period. It is like the South Park episode when they were choosing a mascot between a Douche bag and a turd sandwich. Seriously though, he has admitted himself he does not understand economics as well as he should. Considering where our economy is right now, that is a troubling fact.
John McCain has himself admitted to not understanding economics as well as he should, and so he will probably be willing to take the advice of top economic experts, such as Forbes. The Democrats? I don't think they really care that much about the economy. Have you guys heard Obama's speech where he emphatically says that we can save our planet and get out of Iraq? Something bothers me about him almost yawningly saying, "as well as create jobs and protect the economy..."


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Approximately 70% of Americans oppose the continued occupation of Iraq by the United States and McCain supports staying there for the next 100 years? Hardly a uniting president.

McCain supports staying there as long as it take to get the job done, and you've used an inflated %. Of all registered voters, 31% are for staying in as long as it takes. Only 20% want to withdraw right away. Most Americans want a reasonable President who will get the job done right.

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Old 02-14-2008, 10:51 PM
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John McCain has himself admitted to not understanding economics as well as he should, and so he will probably be willing to take the advice of top economic experts, such as Forbes. The Democrats? I don't think they really care that much about the economy. Have you guys heard Obama's speech where he emphatically says that we can save our planet and get out of Iraq? Something bothers me about him almost yawningly saying, "as well as create jobs and protect the economy..."





McCain supports staying there as long as it take to get the job done, and you've used an inflated %. Of all registered voters, 31% are for staying in as long as it takes. Only 20% want to withdraw right away. Most Americans want a reasonable President who will get the job done right.

Iraq
"From what you have seen or heard about the situation in Iraq, what should the United States do now? Should the U.S. increase the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, keep the same number of U.S. troops in Iraq as there are now, decrease the number of troops in Iraq, or remove all its troops from Iraq?"


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Increase Same Number Decrease Remove All Unsure
% % % % %


9/14-16/07
6 21 39 29 5


according to your poll website:
29% remove all now
21% keep troop level same
39% decrease troops
5% unsure
6% increase troops

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if you want to be able to perform all the needed tasks and prosecute the counter insurgency effort and counter terrorism threats, then increase the troops to 600,000+(actual combat troops not support personnel), preferably double that or more, and that would satisfy Petraeus' own COIN manual's recommendations and well established military doctrine for such things

so far, border insecure, order not established, most of the population has been forced to move or flee which has caused ethnic/religious pockets to form in various areas of the country, electricity service is down to a couple hours a day, same with water service, somewhere around 1-2 million refugees which the US has steadfastly refused to deal with, the brain drain has already happened---> smart and affluent people leave the country taking lots of expertise with them-- typical signs of a failing occupation

political solution not even close

all of this was predicted beforehand, its pretty typical, already happened once before in Iraq, just ask the British

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Old 02-14-2008, 11:09 PM
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"From what you have seen or heard about the situation in Iraq, what should the United States do now? Should the U.S. increase the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, keep the same number of U.S. troops in Iraq as there are now, decrease the number of troops in Iraq, or remove all its troops from Iraq?"


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Increase Same Number Decrease Remove All Unsure
% % % % %


9/14-16/07
6 21 39 29 5


according to your poll website:
29% remove all now
21% keep troop level same
39% decrease troops
5% unsure
6% increase troops

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if you want to be able to perform all the needed tasks and prosecute the counter insurgency effort and counter terrorism threats, then increase the troops to 600,000+(actual combat troops not support personnel), preferably double that or more, and that would satisfy Petraeus' own COIN manual's recommendations and well established military doctrine for such things

so far, border insecure, order not established, most of the population has been forced to move or flee which has caused ethnic/religious pockets to form in various areas of the country, electricity service is down to a couple hours a day, same with water service, somewhere around 1-2 million refugees which the US has steadfastly refused to deal with, the brain drain has already happened---> smart and affluent people leave the country taking lots of expertise with them-- typical signs of a failing occupation

political solution not even close

all of this was predicted beforehand, its pretty typical, already happened once before in Iraq, just ask the British


The question I was citing is, "In your opinion, should the United States withdraw troops from Iraq right away, or should the U.S. begin bringing troops home within the next year, or should troops stay in Iraq for as long as it takes to win the war?"


Another interesting and very recent one to look at is, ""Do you think the United States is or is not making significant progress toward restoring civil order in Iraq?"
In the past six months the numbers saying that it is went up 10%, the numbers saying that it isn't went down 10%.




"When it comes to the war in Iraq, which of the following statements comes closer to your point of view? The most responsible thing we can do is find a way to withdraw most of our troops from Iraq by the beginning of 2009. The most responsible thing we can do is to remain in Iraq until the situation in the country is stable." Half sample, MoE ± 4.4 (Form A)

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Withdraw
Most Troops
By 2009 Remain
Until Country
Stable Unsure
% % %
12/14-17/07
57 40 3
11/1-5/07
55 40 5

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Old 02-14-2008, 11:14 PM
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"From what you have seen or heard about the situation in Iraq, what should the United States do now? Should the U.S. increase the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, keep the same number of U.S. troops in Iraq as there are now, decrease the number of troops in Iraq, or remove all its troops from Iraq?"


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Increase Same Number Decrease Remove All Unsure
% % % % %


9/14-16/07
6 21 39 29 5


according to your poll website:
29% remove all now
21% keep troop level same
39% decrease troops
5% unsure
6% increase troops

**********************
if you want to be able to perform all the needed tasks and prosecute the counter insurgency effort and counter terrorism threats, then increase the troops to 600,000+(actual combat troops not support personnel), preferably double that or more, and that would satisfy Petraeus' own COIN manual's recommendations and well established military doctrine for such things

so far, border insecure, order not established, most of the population has been forced to move or flee which has caused ethnic/religious pockets to form in various areas of the country, electricity service is down to a couple hours a day, same with water service, somewhere around 1-2 million refugees which the US has steadfastly refused to deal with, the brain drain has already happened---> smart and affluent people leave the country taking lots of expertise with them-- typical signs of a failing occupation

political solution not even close

all of this was predicted beforehand, its pretty typical, already happened once before in Iraq, just ask the British

Don't worry, we're gonna find all those nukes any day now, and this will have all been worth it. Oh, wait, we paid the Iraqis back for their links to 9/11, so it's all been worth it. Uh, I mean, we're bringing democracy to the Iraqi people, so how can you say it hasn't been worth it?
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