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tundra · 01-27-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

No, your comments would have to have a shred of intelligence in them to touch a nerve. Their just boring and childish. I'm not interested in playing in the sandbox with you. You'll have to find someone else whose got lower standards.

But what's the alternative? Debate with only those who agree with you? Is there another alternative I don't see? What's the point in debating if you only do it with those who fundamentally agree...actually that's not debating at all is it?

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 01-27-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tundra

But what's the alternative? Debate with only those who agree with you? Is there another alternative I don't see? What's the point in debating if you only do it with those who fundamentally agree...actually that's not debating at all is it?

The alternative? You don't know what the alternative is to discussion against childish comments? Well maybe that's for the best then. If you can't figure that out, then what would you say that possibly has any value? Let's agree to disagree. You can argue against whatever trash you find and I won't. We'll compliment each other. I'll hold discussions wherever I see something intelligent said, and you hold discussions wherever you see something stupid said. Everybody's happy that way.

leo · 01-28-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fong

We don't share the same electoral system, as we get to vote and our votes are counted and used to decide who wins and yours are not.

That jape aside.

You blame hilary for being divisive, but isn't it the Republicans who started to divide you?

"You don't support our troops!"
"You are either with us or you are with the terrorists"

That is what divided your nation. You seem to blame her for railing against what the Conservatives have done. You seem to want someone who can bring you together, but that clearly isn't going to work while the other side is working soo hard to drive you apart.

You seem upset that Hilary has decided that if it is either with YOU or against YOU, Then I will be against you.

Personally I see that as a good thing. You can't fight back against the sort of rhetoric the Republican party uses, unless you are willing to fight fire with fire.

The problem with the Democrats in your country is that they lack a backbone, they lack the balls to stand up and do what the Republicans do.

I saw little made of the fact that your troops were being sent without adequate armour and when they returned the care they received was sub-par. You really think the tables weren't reversed the Republicans wouldn't have made a meal of that?

The president lies in the white house about the war in Iraq.

Where are the congressional hearings? Where is the special prosecuter out on his lawn each morning with a cup of coffee investigating?

That is what the republicans did to the democrats when Clinton got a bj.

Yet the republican leader lies to drag you into a pointless war and the democrats can't even make a strong enough case to bring a prosecuter?

It is pathetic, and the Democrats need a leader with a pair of balls, and the only person out there so far on the Democrat side that has shown any balls at all is Clinton.

That is why the Conservatives hate her soo much, and that is why I hope she wins.

While I can only talk for my self, but I think the reason most people really want to change the way this country is and has been going for a very long time : Its the fact that the two major parties only fight and never seem to work together. So a strong backbone to one side of the long and old standing fight will just keep this great nation divided - that is the LAST thing we need over here. It's not about Conservatives against Liberals, left or right - its about AMERICANS. Hillary makes rules then breaks them ONLY when it suits her - the voting sites in Nevada, the voting in FL - my home state, she agreed to all this a yr a go, then tries to sue Nevada after the casino workers backed her opponent.... messed up old school politics. The way the first woman candidate is relying SO much on her man to get her in office... she seems like to me that she just want to win more for her self than for me, you, or anybody else... I really truly believe that Obama KNOWS it more about us - than it is about him winning. I really think that if she wins - she will take the White House. That is one reason why I re registered to vote out here in the west just to vote in this primary race. It's not about the war that took us away from the terrorist in the Middle East area of the world - it is documented that Saddam did not side with the Al Queada - my source iare the investigator from the FBI that was w/ Saddam everyday for a yr or so... Hillary voted for that war and you can say hind sight is 20/20, but not voting for the wrong war and/or at least taking much more time to look at things when you are about to kill a lot of people over your vote, like Obama was doing - is 100% great judgment - that is just what this great nation needs. Hillary voted out of public polls - not reading or looking into the real facts about the war - just voting on what is politically correct at the time.

What it is about is getting this nation back to the people that ARE this nation.... stupid fighting from the left and the right is just that, stupid, and it more than anything else is killing this nation - I now know who I will vote for w/ out any hesitation - I will vote for a UNITED AMERICA.

Fighting fire w/ fire will only burn the whole place down... I prefer to fight fire w/ water and try to save the stuff around me that I love so much... that's just my opinion...

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