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Originally Posted by LostInTranslation
I wanted people to know the side of the story that was rarely heard here. Most forum posters here are smart enough to make their own judgment after hearing all sides of the story.
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You mean, you didn't want to be a conformist by conforming to all those nationalists on here. Fine, if you want, but I'm equally at right to dismiss your claims, especially when they're based on falsely constructed terms.
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I have posted links showing what the protesters demanded, but you obviously chose not to look at it, and declared that no one on these forums project any of this whatsoever.
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I have seen many, one was "France needs to Shut Up" That was really convincing in demonstrating how Chinese protesters make any sort of distinctions between people from the western hemisphere or within countries.
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I agreed that some arguments by some Chinese supporters here are not all that valid, but you were genaralizing it to include all Chinese supporters. Further, I have learned that it's better to discuss issues rather than posters on this forum.
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I'm not at all generalizing this to all Chinese, I am generalizing all Chinese nationalists, nay all nationalists in the world. If they don't like being group into a big contingency, perhaps they should stop doing it regarding people within states?
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So you gave me the statistics that doesn't support your argument. Do I miss something here?
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No, I gave you the statistic that supported my argument, but I conceded to another claim I made but wasn't my argument.
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Those were not the arguments I contested. I never questioned the censorship of internet, or the overwhelming influence of the state-run media in China. I contested two of your arguments:
(1) the majority of the Chinese internet users surf the web in cybercafes (I gave you the statistics showing otherwise, and that statistics was quoted from the associated press);
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Those were only deviation from your original argument.
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(2) there is only one source in Chinese media (I gave you alternative sources which are accessible in China).
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Other sources are completely meaningless if it is censored by the same body that has the monopoly over the media.
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Are you right or wrong on these two arguments?
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Wrong on the first statement, but still right in the real argument.