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Old 05-10-2008, 10:00 PM   #20 (permalink)
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There is plenty. Go to his campaign Web site and read about all of his Marxist wealth redistribution programs for not only this country, but for the whole world.
You say Marxist wealth redistribution, I say welfare. I don't see any problem with ensuring that our streets aren't filled with the starved corpses of America's homeless population. It's really comical how you conservatives rebound back and forth between "Barack Obama is a rich Democrat who is out of touch with the working class" to "look at this man, he wants to take all the money away from everyone and give it to the working class".

By "for the whole world", I assume that you mean the forign aid that America has given to the world's destitute since...forever? If you want to call Obama a Marxist for giving out forign aid, then Bush is a Marxist too.

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You're right. It's not an arguement. It's an argument.
Oh my! I made a single spelling mistake! I suppose my entire argument just goes to hell doesn't it? I mean honestly, is this really going to descend to nitpicking like that? So sue me; I don't feel like using Microsoft Word to spell and grammer check everything I write like some.

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Barack Obama is no different than any of the other hundreds that have run for the White House before him. Every election year they are out there kissing babies with promises of changing the world and as time goes on the government gets more and more intrusive, corrupt, and incompetent. It won't be any different whether he is in the White House or McCain or if Clinton manages to pull something out of her sleeve. Everything will still be the same, including people like you who are gullible enough to fall for this garbage every four years as America continues on its downward spiral just like the Romans a thousand years before us.
You've become cynical to the point where any argument that I make will just fall on deaf ears. The only thing that may change your opinion would be if Barack Obama does turn out to be the breath of fresh air that I and millions like me believe him to be. Even if he does, you will probably only see his faults. You believe the worst in people. You said yourself that anyone elected to the Presidency will just be another fraud. There is really nothing that I have left to say except that I hope you change your outlook on humanity someday.

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If you want to be enlightened, stop following the herd.
So tell me, how does one stop following the herd? Anytime one supports the majority opinion, he or she is supposedly part of the herd. Does this mean that despite the fact that I agree with nearly all of Obama's policies, the only way that I can "think for myself" is to support someone who isn't winning? I should start supporting Clinton. Then I won't be part of the herd any more. But what if she starts winning? I should change my support back to Obama. You are rediculous; you tell me to follow my own opinions and at the same time say that I can't support the man who most fits my opinions. Being a part of the majority does not mean that you have no opinions of your own or that you are brainwashed.
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