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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
A moment ago you said that it was not about power or control. Dominance is about control over another.
Many studies show that rape is more about control over the victim than sexual gratification.
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You replace my more nuanced words with your clumsier words "not about" and then attempt to show a contrast between this clumsy facsimile of my words vs some of my other words. If you're going to try to show a contradiction in what I've said, you'll need to do a better job of describing what I've actually said.
Any sexual act can be performed with other issues used as additional reasons that enhance the pleasure derived from that act, but you cannot enhance something that does not exist, which is effectively what you were arguing. I argue that the domination is something that enhances the pleasure, so what it is "about" still remains the pleasure of gay sex for the guy in jail. The domination enhances what it is fundamentally "about."
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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
No two things are the same. But you eluded to, gay sex in prison is no different than gay sex in society.
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That's a complete misrepresentation of my argument. Your version of what you say I'm arguing doesn't even make sense. Why would I even bother arguing that prison sex is no different than gay sex in society? Why would I even be arguing about that? That has nothing to do with this thread.
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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
Actually I did. As the DOJ link showed, a majority of the sex that took place in prisons is not consensual, it backs my stance. I do have to apologize for not providing a specific quote. I was at work and had other things going on, and assumed that only providing a link would be seen as picking and choosing.
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No, you did not. Citations show what page numbers the citation refers to. You did not do this. You dropped a 37-page document in my lap and said
the proof is in there. That's as good as nothing.
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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
Both your source, and my source state that a minimal number of the sex that takes place in prisons is consensual. Therefor making a broad generalization is not factual.
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That's not my source and you provide no quote or proper citation to prove that what you say is true.
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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
If I broke any forum rules then I apologize. I said what I said out of friendly advise as I do respect you for what you have done for me in the past.
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I did nothing for you in the past. You should keep all future personal comments that you have for me (including private messages), to yourself.
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Originally Posted by Ummwhat
So, in so far we have established that a majority of sex in prison is about dominance as opposed to sexual gratification.
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You
believe you have established this. You have not. You have merely stated your opinions as if they were facts.
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