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The problem is how the Western Nations do this. Whenever China has problem with 'human rights', the Western Nations have no second thoughts to use the Media to shame China. Second, these Western Nations only care about 'human rights' of the people who are backed by Western NGO's, like the Tibetans and activists like Hu Jia. There were numerous protests by the Chinese that has no political motivation that it was not harshly cracked down, nor do the West have any interest on them, as an example that cindy6 posted about.
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In general newspapers want to sell. Most will want headlines that their readers will quickly recognize and be interested in buying. No, Western Nations are not in the business of 'shaming' China. I don't even know if that's what newspapers are trying to do.
You must have some papers where you are living which give a less comic book approach to the news.
However, and I think Mikado also said this in connection with the BBC, you will find that newspapers do the same to everyone. Gordon Brown the current Prime Minister here is responsible for almost everything that has gone wrong in the UK since he became Prime Minister according to the news!
I have a sneaking suspicion I might have heard of the protests Cindy6's mentions on the BBC. Maybe not....but for anything which is not 'topical' of the moment, we would be more likely to hear about it through a documentary.
You have to be selective in the news you read and watch. I have just one daily newspaper I read and two Sunday one's.
I'll watch any regular news if I just want to know what is going on. If there is something that particularly interests me, there is 1 station which I feel gives a more in depth look at current news (and it's not the BBC). Then if I'm still interested I'll watch Newsnight which is on the BBC and also find that watching BBC's News24 particularly through the night gives me information I don't necessarily find anywhere else.
If I look at the same issue through several different sources, I eventually find I have enough material to come to my decision on it. I do not however always find anywhere that has my point of view.
NGO'S. Surely it is better having organisations that are not attached to any government bringing Human rights to people's attention. Do you not think that means they will be more impartial? Their interest is simply what they are reporting rather than any interest to their own country. Obviously they can only write about things which they either know about or which they are alerted to.
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Believe it or not, the chinese government does change for the better. Unfortunately, this is not what the West advertise.
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I do appreciate that Chinese people on here feel the Government is changing for the better.
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The problem is that the Western Nations don't see eye-to-eye with most of the Chinese citizens on what they want on democratic reforms and human rights issues.
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I would think most people want all Chinese people to have the right to say what they want and to have human rights up to a good standard.
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The West uses its political muscle to support the Tibetan protesters and the Free Tibet movement, whereas most of the Chinese citizens against the Tibetan protesters and the Free Tibet movement because they are considered splittists. Most of the Chinese Citizens sees human rights issues with the 2 mentioned above, yet the West didn't feel it is important enough to flex their political muscle on this issue. They also know what are the environmental issues like what cindy6 mentioned earlier, again, the West didn't flex their political muscle on that issue also.
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I think Western countries let Tibet down when they allowed the Chinese to take it over in the first place...and I suspect that is something that is going to cause continuing difference...not between Western governments and China but more concerning ordinary people. People will go with whatever the people of Tibet want to happen...and on this one it is surely more fair that that does belong to the Tibetan people in Tibet.
With regard to things like environmental issues. Now these do become topical quite often...but these are more a global issue. You would therefor be more likely to find news about protests on things like this when pollution is in the news, even more so when Chinese pollution is in the news. I don't think this is anything to do with prejudice but rather because there is only so much news which can be heard or written about in one day. Chinese people can of course tell western newspapers or tv of these happenings if they want to get them covered and I dare say they would have a very good chance of that happening. The news would of course put it's own slant on it and that is a problem that everyone has.
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I think if the West can help China to get rid of the corruption within China, it would be a giant step towards to a more democratic country.
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Wow, that's an interesting one!! I found a link and it said in 2000 Finland was the least corrupt with Europe in general doing particularly well.
CNN.com - Finland 'least corrupt country in the world' - September 13, 2000.
I wish I could help you on that one! I guess if it was me I would send people to some of the best countries to find out how they manage it. China however is so big that what suits smaller European countries may not work for it.
Try to look at what people are saying rather than being hurt.
China has been living on its own for a long time. Obviously if it wishes to be involved in International things, it is going to need to take into account International opinion or at the very least it will become aware of international opinion. In the end, China will either change in certain key areas, move back out of the International arena or will need to put up with International opinion. Try not to always think it is the world against China.
I did mean it when I said I thought China seemed to be going through a non violent revolution right now. Revolutions are tumultuous times. Hopefully it will feel worth it in the end.