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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I disagree. Rape occurs in jail because the rapist enjoys gay sex AND is trying to assert dominance. You're not getting your dick up unless you are enjoying what you are doing.
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A moment ago you said that it was not about power or control. Dominance is about control over another.
Many studies show that rape is more about control over the victim than sexual gratification.
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
You are arguing a strawman, as you are arguing against a position that I am not holding. Prison sex and free sex are not the same. No sex is the same. Nothing is the same: NOTHING. Two screws produced in the same factory are not the same. There are molecular imperfections that make them different. However, the differences you point out are irrelevant to my point, as I have repeatedly told you.
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No two things are the same. But you eluded to, gay sex in prison is no different than gay sex in society.
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You have not shown that the DOJ says different. You dropped a 37 page document on my desk without specific referral to where your source supports your position.
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Actually I did. As the DOJ link showed, a majority of the sex that took place in prisons is not consensual, it backs my stance. I do have to apologize for not providing a specific quote. I was at work and had other things going on, and assumed that only providing a link would be seen as picking and choosing.
Thank you. I hoped that you would bring that up.
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The source is concerned almost exclusively or nearly exclusively about rape, and non-consensual sex. So it doesn't speak to consensual sex. To use an analogy, your method of debate here is to argue that all cops are bad and to only use data of police brutality. You've simply limited your data to data that could only support your position, and that is not valid support for your position.
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Both your source, and my source state that a minimal number of the sex that takes place in prisons is consensual. Therefor making a broad generalization is not factual.
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You sir need to abide by the forum rules and exercise some civility if you wish to post. Your unsolicited and disingenuous personal advice is not permitted, nor does it have any class.
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If I broke any forum rules then I apologize. I said what I said out of friendly advise as I do respect you for what you have done for me in the past.
So, in so far we have established that a majority of sex in prison is about dominance as opposed to sexual gratification.