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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
You speculate about homosexuality in the very post where you ask where you are speculating about them. As you said: "In fact I specifically said that there was no proof that that it is genetic, environmental or hormonal."
That is a speculation. Even if it were just stating the facts it's still speculating, because you would be talking about and speculating on homosexuality. The primary definition of speculate is: " to engage in thought or reflection; meditate (often fol. by on, upon, or a clause)." You have engaged in thought or reflection about homosexuality and have thereby speculated on it. It was disingenuous how you made it seem like it was strange how I would speculate about homosexuality in jails, while at the same time you speculate about homosexuality in general. That's hypocrisy.
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What I said was taken directly out of actual studies that I have read. I don't know about you but for me paraphrasing and speculating are two separate things.
At any rate I know nothing about homosexual sex among prisoners outside of what has been said in Hollywood television and the link Ummwhat provided which you dismissed. I simply don't know enough about the topic to comment on it and I did not criticize you for your own speculations, you criticized me for supposedly speculating about gays in the bedroom, but not in prisons remember?
In the end it doesn't matter if I was speculating or not. I did not say anything was wrong with your speculations, however I prefer to know something about the topic before I discuss.
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No, I do not misunderstand, you mischaracterize my remarks. You told me how my argument is laid out and you said that I was doing it in a way in which I am not actually arguing. You said:
"If your opinion holds true then that would mean a person's body can literally change just from participating in different kinds of acts."
This is false. My belief is that for most part, sexuality is voluntary and is not conditional upon biology. Therefore, if my opinion holds true, that would NOT mean a person's body can literally change just from participating in different kinds of acts.
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Your belief does not account for the physiological changes I mentioned, the only way they could be accurate about most gays is if people's voluntary (such as having gay sex as you believe) behavior caused these physiological differences which is what I was saying. If this behavior does not not affect one's physiology in this manner then your opinion is false. It is as simple as that. I will not explain myself again. You can either except my explanation or not.
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Then where do the physiological differences come from if not from people's DNA?
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Hormones could be another explanation. Hormones can affect the body and mind without the genes being different. Growth hormones in particular come to mind.
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Then you failed to see what is the data for your primary source.
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I took a more indepth look at the study and it's focus is clearly not on the sexual orientation of gays, but it does find it's way into the report. Either way it is just one of many.
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Your decision to add this line: "And that was only one out of a dozen links" and make it appear as if you said this earlier, when you did not say that in the post you are quoting yourself from is very very strange.
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No when I copied my post to point out that I never said homosexuality was genetic it got mixed up with that comment. I highlighted it and explained in my edit that it made its way in there however I did not immediately notice it so I just highlighted rather then change then remove it from the post as it would make it look like I edited the whole thing. I just wanted everyone to know that that was not part of my original comment. If I was being intentionally deceptive I wouldn't have that comment stick out. In other words it was supposed to be in my last comment.