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Old 05-08-2008, 07:42 PM   #67 (permalink)
Sebelius for VP, not Hillary
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What is it exactly did I speculate about regarding homosexuals?
You speculate about homosexuality in the very post where you ask where you are speculating about them. As you said: "In fact I specifically said that there was no proof that that it is genetic, environmental or hormonal."

That is a speculation. Even if it were just stating the facts it's still speculating, because you would be talking about and speculating on homosexuality. The primary definition of speculate is: " to engage in thought or reflection; meditate (often fol. by on, upon, or a clause)." You have engaged in thought or reflection about homosexuality and have thereby speculated on it. It was disingenuous how you made it seem like it was strange how I would speculate about homosexuality in jails, while at the same time you speculate about homosexuality in general. That's hypocrisy.

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I think you misunderstand. My point was that physiological differences between gays and straights are indisputable and that your argument of homosexuality being only a matter of choice and action is false unless they result in physiological changes. I was pointing out that your argument does not account for this matter and is therefore fundamentally flawed as a result.
No, I do not misunderstand, you mischaracterize my remarks. You told me how my argument is laid out and you said that I was doing it in a way in which I am not actually arguing. You said:

"If your opinion holds true then that would mean a person's body can literally change just from participating in different kinds of acts."

This is false. My belief is that for most part, sexuality is voluntary and is not conditional upon biology. Therefore, if my opinion holds true, that would NOT mean a person's body can literally change just from participating in different kinds of acts.

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I did not say that homosexuality was genetic. In fact I specifically said that there was no proof that that it is genetic, environmental or hormonal. What I did say was that there were physiological differences between gays and straights and that in my opinion that weakens your argument of it being a matter of choice at least not among all homosexuals. Here is the full text of my comment.
Then where do the physiological differences come from if not from people's DNA?

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I saw no reference to rodents in the study although I only skimmed it. Either way, one cannot so easily dismiss the list of physiological, cognitive and behavioral differences between gays a straights. I'm sure if they did not exist they wouldn't documented in the first place.
Then you failed to see what is the data for your primary source.

Your decision to add this line: "And that was only one out of a dozen links" and make it appear as if you said this earlier, when you did not say that in the post you are quoting yourself from is very very strange.


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