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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
Well I think that if one is willing to speculate on the unknown about homosexuals in their bedrooms, one might as well speculate on the unknown in convict homosexuals in their jail cells. So why would you know about homosexuals in society, but not about those in jail? That's a strange line to draw. As for the statistics, I don't have any on me right now, no.
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What is it exactly did I speculate about regarding homosexuals?
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Well I don't believe that anything at all has been CONCLUSIVELY shown in this international debate about biology and homosexuality, so if you are looking for conclusive evidence, then there probably is none at all.
Your second paragraph is a misrepresentation of my argument, which does not argue that homosexual behavior is based upon biology but upon choice. Obviously, it is false for you to argue that when I make my argument about choice, different choices lead to changes in people's bodies, as that's not what I've argued. If you disagree, then show me where I argued that.
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I think you misunderstand. My point was that physiological differences between gays and straights are indisputable and that your argument of homosexuality being only a matter of choice and action is false unless they result in physiological changes. I was pointing out that your argument does not account for this matter and is therefore fundamentally flawed as a result.
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I took a look at the first citation in this link that had any depth to it.
http://www.dafml.unito.it/anatomy/pa...PanzicaJEI.pdf
This study is not strong support for your argument for two reasons:
* It only mentions possibilites and evidence for possibilities, it does not definitively state that homosexuality is gentic
* The data that the researchers worked on appears to be rats and Japanese quails, not humans. I'm not changing my beliefs about gays due to what some scientists said is possible about rats and quails.
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I did not say that homosexuality was genetic. In fact I specifically said that there was no proof that that it is genetic, environmental or hormonal. What I did say was that there were physiological differences between gays and straights and that in my opinion that weakens your argument of it being a matter of choice at least not among all homosexuals. Here is the full text of my comment.
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I don't know why sex deprived criminals resort to homosexual acts while in prison, nor do I know how common it is or how likely they are to retain such behavior upon leaving prison. Do you have any statistics on the specifics I can't answer the unknown? And that was only one out of a dozen links
I do know however that no environmental factors have ever conclusively been shown to cause someone to be gay. There are technically neither any hormonal or genetic ones either however environmental factors are much easier to study and we are still learning about genetics and hormones.
As for the physiological differences between gays and straights they are indisputable. If your opinion holds true then that would mean a person's body can literally change just from participating in different kinds of acts.
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I saw no reference to rodents in the study although I only skimmed it. Either way, one cannot so easily dismiss the list of physiological, cognitive and behavioral differences between gays a straights. I'm sure if they did not exist they wouldn't documented in the first place.
Edit: I underlined an unfinished comment in my post although I did not change the post itself.