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Originally Posted by Gnuf Said
My physical arguments seem to have gone over your head.
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No, they have not. Do not tell me that I do not understand your arguments. That is very rude and you employ rudeness to compensate for your weak arguments at your own peril.
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Originally Posted by Gnuf Said
My questions about whether straight people could go against their nature and participate in gay sex was addressing the issue of gays being "cured" of their homosexuality. I simply turned the notion around, just as I turned the idea of "choice" around by asking when the topic starter "chose" to be straight. Doing so exposes the logical flaws in such thinking.
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Yeah sure that's what you TRIED TO DO, but you don't mention that you completely failed in your attempt to show that people had no choice in their sexual behavior. You did not expose logical flaws in "such thinking", you only exposed that you dismiss disagreement with your opinion as not "honest" and not "straightfoward" even when they are presented in an honest and straightforward fashion.
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Neither you nor the topic starter chose to be straight. You just are. That's where the real double standard is. You understand that you are attracted to women and not men. But you fail to accept that there are men who are attracted to men and not women, that it somehow has to be a choice because of your orientation.
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I could be gay if I wanted to. I choose not to be. How can you disprove this?
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Placing a gay person in a situation whereby they go against their nature and have heterosexual sex is not evidence that homosexuality is a choice. It is more akin to your example of a heterosexual turning to gay sex in prison. Contrary behavior in no way invalidates one's natural orientation.
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I never held that up
as proof, so you're making a strawman argument. I do offer as proof the conduct of convicts, and how they will be gay when they want and straight when they want as evidence of the voluntary nature of homosexual behavior.
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Exactly how is allowing gays to have gay sex forcing anything on you?
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I'm glad you "exactly" agree that your tactics are identical to the ones you condemn.
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I'm promoting homosexuality? Sorry, I am not a recruiter. I'm straight as an arrow.
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Being straight does not rule out one from promoting homosexuality, which is what you propose.
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Actually it is germane. There's a common factor in all of it, including your witch burning. Religious intolerance.
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Actually, it still isn't germane. I belong to no organized religion, so religion is not a common factor.
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It is your contention that being gay is wrong. It is mine that it is not.
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That's correct. My contention that homosexuality is wrong is also correct.