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Old 05-08-2008, 04:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
Sebelius for VP, not Hillary
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This is probably the most straightforward answer. You just flat out think homosexuality is wrong, and equate it with stabbing yourself in the leg or stealing money from a found wallet.

At least that's honest.
All of my answers were straightforward and "at least" honest. Yours were not. You automatically rule out disagreement about your physical arguments as not straightforward or not honest, which is a dishonest comment in and of itself.

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You are entitled to your beliefs. However, it becomes a problem when you force others to live by that belief. There was a time when a black man couldn't marry a white woman because there were people who felt that was an offense against God. There are still people today who feel that way.
You are entitled to yours, however it becomes a problem when you force others to live by that belief, while accusing your opponents of doing that. I don't want to give my blessing to homosexuality and you seek to force the majority of Americans who share this view to do just that. That is a big problem, in addition to the problem of your promotion of homosexuality. Those are two big problems that you create.

As for blacks and whites, well there was a time when we burned witches too, however none of this discussion about race or witchcraft is germane to the present debate.

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When innocents are involved, such as pedophiles who prey on children, that is one thing. But we are talking about consenting adults.
What's wrong is wrong. Consenting adults can still do the wrong thing.

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When you take money from someone's wallet, you are taking it without their consent. So there is a difference there as well. Two men having sex with each other are not taking anything from you any more than a man and a woman having sex with each other.
They lost the money. I believe that legally it is no longer their's. So one can legally take that money. It's the difference of values which determines what people can do, even when they have legal rights to do what is wrong. Two men having sex with each other are destroying the society which I live in. All citizens have a say in how their society will be run. I choose to use my voice to prevent its destruction, you choose yours to allow the erosion of this society's decency and quality.
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