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Old 05-08-2008, 12:31 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Thank you for your reply, and for the link to the article. I went trough it, and personally don't think it is that sympathetic towards Tibetans. It just states basic facts, without giving any opinion. It doesn't condone the violence, and doesn't condemn Beijing for this situation. It quotes a few people; it's just journalism.
My take on it is that for the person who don't know better, Chinese is causing all the mayhem. One sentence describes destruction in Lhasa, another sentence describes about certain misgivings to Tibetans. So some people who are oblivious concluded that Chinese are responsible for the riots.

This has worked before when many people concluded that Saddam was responsible for 9/11 a couple of years back.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Bush rejects Saddam 9/11 link

If hear Bush and his cronies' speeches at the time, he keeps alternating subjects between Saddam's killer regime and the atrocities as a result of 9/11. It certainly has worked, because 70% of Americans believed that he was responsible for 9/11. Just an observation.

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I don't know about all of them (Anya provided us with a link in her/his post above mine ~ thanks); but I don't think the leader of France said he will not attend the Olympics. From what I've heard, he said he's still thinking about it. If you want to know, I wish he would join Bush and other leaders at the opening ceremony in Beijing, in August. We'll see; but it's not that important. Most important is that French Athletes win as much medals as they can.
I don't think the problem is the leaders not attending, as those Leaders are probably not going the opening ceremony anyways. The problem is they mentioned that they told press that they are not going as a way to protest against China's human rights...

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That's definitely not what I've read about in your article. It neither says that Chinese are bad guys, nor that Tibetans are; it just states facts. I can see that you live in Brooklyn next to your avatar. I didn't know you've been a US resident for +25 years. That's a long time; you must be loving it!
It is not just about the tibetans. It is how history books and the media treats China because they are a communist country. In the 1950-60's there was a witchhunt for communists in the US itself. Alot of Americans see things as black and white, good vs evil, us vs the terrorists. I think they see the 'Free Tibetans' as freedom fighters, and the Chinese as a communist regime.

And as for me why I like living in the US is because of economic and educational opportunties in the states compared to China. Alot of kids have to study hard otherwise they don't get into the good schools. The good jobs are very competitive in China as 1/3 of the college grads won't get a job. Alot of Westerners believe that Chinese leave their own country because of the 'oppressive' Chinese government, which is entirely false. In fact, there are good number of Chinese Nationals who went back to China because there are a lack of Managers who understand Chinese and Western Culture.

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They have absolutely every right to protest; that's not what I mean. I'm just saying that nationalistic feelings pinch on a particular string of the human soul, and that can bring about much discord to the entire world.

You may be right; but I really doubt Tibetans protesters were looking forward to being caught by the police, especially in PR China. My guess is they took the first opportunity to let the world hear their complaint.
Kadfly: A few more pictures from Lhasa

Well, here's some pictures of the Lhasa incident that someone took. If you look at the pictures, the the Chinese Cops are just trying to protect themselves while these Tibetan protestors are trying to make this into a contact sport. So that's why I am surprised that the protestors are not beaten down or something.
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