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Old 05-05-2008, 03:23 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by zhangmingzhao View Post
Personal freedom is a lofty thing which is often sadly abused. Take the event that happened in Tibet. Do all Tibetans want independence or just someone who are close to Dalai Lama?
We'll never know until freedom of speech has been established along with decentralized elections.

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When the slaver owners of the South want to expand their territory within the union, did all people in the South want to break up from the union?
Again, nothing more than speculations without a democratic system to convey data on this.

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Self-determination of the South is a sham slogan that serves the interest of the slaver owners who were actually minorities of the South.
Libertarians of the Austrian School have often taken the side of Southern separatists, not because they advocate slavery, or anything in these lines, but because of the principles behind the right to secession. Plus, many joined the South because Abraham Lincoln was a horrible president in matters of democracy.

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I will not hesitate to support a province of China to declare their independence if the people, that is the working people set up their government and carry out their struggle against injustice to the end. But I will not give the so-called Tibet government in exile a darn in their ludicruous cry for a "free Tibet". This sets many Chinese and other freedom-loving people apart from those hypocrites from the west.
The working people? What is that suppose to mean? Anyone deemed independent for his individual life ought to have the same amount of say in the process of policy making and law in the jurisdiction immediately affecting them.
I don't know what you meant by "struggle against injustice to the end."
You say you support the people's decision, yet you oppose the cause for an independent or more autonomous Tibet without knowing the decision of the people, since there has yet to be elections on the matter. If anything, that is hypocrite, not some contingent action of a contingent group known as the "west".
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