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Originally Posted by GoChina!
in a country like China, both democracy and developing speed are needed. how to assure speed? centralization of power. its not as easy to practise democracy in a country with so vast land and 2000 yrs of totalitarian tradition as in a country founded by a bunch of travllers 2 hundred yrs ago.
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Who's to say the right speed when those involved don't have a say. Again, you can do it fast, or you can do it right. As I have argued unchallenged many times, the former never out does a democratic system. It's always a step behind, copying and manufacturing other's products and ideas. Plus, in this case, it destroys the environment and lives. Free trade is beneficial to all. State forced trade is beneficial to some and disastrous for the rest.
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who said i hate democracy? now its you that got a half ass conclusion. my stance on demorcracy is above. btw did and does the Dalai Lama practise democracy? as far as i know, they still attach much importance to divination when they have to make decisions.
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That was only in response to your sense of losing sovereignty in China to "western" democratic idea. I don't see how Chinese people can't identify themselves ethnically with a democracy in place. It's not like economic liberalism has at all been the tradition in China, but so far whatever of it has been conceded by the CCP and thus initiated has done wonders.
There's no reason to say the Dalai Lama will be the leader of an independent Tibet. Was Ghandi democratic? Was his title Mahatma a democratic one? Yet his cause for independence led the way for Nehru who was democratic.
And I take from your lack of response you can't argue that without a democracy there's absolutely no way to determine what the people actually want except by making realist generalized and ignorant assumption about every single person within a national border.
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then just come to China to do a probe, see if most people support the government on Tibet.
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Again, I was born and raised in Quebec and I had no idea what the results for separation would be until AFTER the referendum. I can't probe 1.3 billion people and neither can you. Your insistence on knowing what is impossible to know only perpetuates my conclusion that CCP apologists are incredibly insecure about their government.
I never needed to assert or could assert anything like that during the referendum. So why and how can you about China? Because of a few lame pictures? None sense.
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lol is wheather Bushs influence > Hu Jintao has anything to do with you? i mentioned Bush just as an example, maybe i should have used another guy. dont take it too seriously.
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No I stated specifically that Hu Jing Tao has little influence outside of China because he is not elected -- he is not the legitimate president of China.
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this pic, see who is on Mao Zedong's left?
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I dunno, you at a wax museum? wow.