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Old 05-03-2008, 08:47 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by smallpox View Post
They wouldn't need to resort to any of this if there was an electoral system in place and freedom of speech. Dissidents would reach their goals through verbal and intellectual means.
I didn't hear about anyone getting their ears chewed out during the 1995 Quebec referendum.).
your justifying those violence?

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It's for everyone. Even China can't evade liberalism, at least economically speaking so far. It is a social axiom that applies to everyone. Inter state wars, genocide, poverty, have ALL went down since the end of the Cold War everywhere in the world (except Sub Sahara Africa in certain aspect -- that's a different story) and the start of widespread liberalism. You're either a liberal society, reforming to a liberal society or North Korea. That is the world we live in right now..
we will reform to a liberal society, but this does not mean Tibet can be seperated. do you know the Dalai Lama's Greater Tibet plan? that is way too ridiculous.

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What Bush says is a LOT more influential than what Hu Jing Tao says. Because Bush is elected, he represents the American people. Hu Jing Tao represents 50 or so million CCP members (even then, only the National Assembly gets to vote on the presidency, if memory serves me well -- further reducing the number of those involved in making Hu Jing Tao legitimate).
no offense but i think what Stephen Harper states is alot less influential than Hu Jin Tao. he is elected too, rite?

and also, What Bush states is so influential that you joined in Iraq war too huh?
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