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ANDY安迪: not only in China... but all in the East under the pretext of creating communist paradise all the important and educated people have been killed. hundreds of millions in fact. Russia, Vietnam, Czech, Cambodia, etc, etc.
其实不只是在中国,整个东方都在建设共产主义天堂的目标下,屠杀了所有重要的和受过教育的人。实际上数亿人 被杀。俄国,越南,捷克,柬埔寨,等等,等等。
陆JOHN : it is started with some educated people, the communism. : yes, in China, more than 70 million died during last 60 years after ccp in power. not to mention the civil war since 1930s
共产主义也是从受过某些教育的人开始的。
是的,在中共统统中国后的60年来,有7千多万人非正常死亡。还不包括从30年代开始的内战。
ANDY安迪: and 60 millions in Russia, and..???millions in all the other Eastern countries in the name of communism
仅仅在俄国有6千万人。还不知道在其他整个东方国家有多少人因为共产主义这个名词而死亡。
陆JOHN : individual life is just an figure for communism or yellow mind.
在共产主义或者说黄色思维中,个人生命只不过是数字而已。
ANDY安迪: that is what I mean... the Jews were able to interpret and understand the mind of people.
这正是我的看法:犹太人总是能知道并且能解读其他人的心思。
陆JOHN : we yellow killing never less than communism in our history.
我们黄色历史上的屠杀绝对不比共产主义少
ANDY安迪: but not 60 millions in a few years...
至少不是像(俄国)那样,在短短几年内屠杀6千万人。
陆JOHN : whom knows? we yellow never care about actual figure, we don’t believe in mathematic accuracy. That is the target of us.
(究竟杀了多少人)谁知道呢,我们黄色从来不关心具体的实际数字,我们从来不信数学意义上的精确。这就是“ 我们”的目的。
ANDY安迪: I realized that我现在明白了。
ANDY安迪: now it is difficult for getting Chinese visa... my brother has to travel to China for his former company... but till now no visa,every day they change their mind in Chinese embassy.
现在很难拿到中国签证了。我兄弟必须为他以前公司的生意去中国,但是至今都拿不到签证。中国使 馆天天变。
陆JOHN : we wish to seperate china from outside world knowing the truth before ...and may be after the GAME.
“我们”希望在奥运前,也许直到之后都不让外部世界知道中国的真实现状。
ANDY安迪: China will close down completely?
中国会完全关闭吗?
陆JOHN : that means their have lost their mind. yellow wish to survive, he must try to it. otherwise, yellow must die.
这说明他们内心完全狂乱了。”黄色”要生存下去,他必须不择手段。 不然的话,”黄色”一定会灭亡。
ANDY安迪: the right of any human being
这是每个人的天性。
陆JOHN : to be or not ,that means life or death for yellow. the instinctive reaction of any human flesh. that means they are aware that they are just human flesh.hehe.
生存或者死亡,这对黄色而言就意味着生存或者死亡。这是任何个人的本能反应。呵呵。这也说明了他们也不过是 血肉之躯,而不是他们自称的中国人民,中国,中华民族。呵呵。
ANDY安迪: so the circle closes... Chinese people will try to survive in their own way and Westerners try to do that in theirs
所以,看来又一个圆圈画完了。。。中国人试图以他们自己的方式生存,而西方人却试图以他们的方 式(干预)。
陆JOHN : while the yellow challenge the western media about Tibet report, they ask: have you seen it? Yellow and western in direct confrontation now.
当黄色就西藏问题挑战西方媒体的时候,他们问:你们看到当时的情节了吗?就此,”黄色”同西方媒体开始直接 对抗了。
ANDY安迪: yes... Western says Dalai Lama is goooood, Yellow say: Baaaaaaaaaaaaad. So Westerners stand firmly behind their own liars. Chinese now also worship again their liars
That is what I mean... Devil is helping Satan to stay alive
是的,西方媒体说达赖喇嘛是好好好好好好的。。。。而黄色说:坏坏坏坏坏坏。所以说西方媒体坚决的站在他们 自己谎言后面。而中国人现在更是对他们的自己的谎言顶礼膜拜。这就是我说的,邪恶帮助撒旦长存 的原因。
陆JOHN : What DL saying ? we yellow have a saying while we do evil or commit crime.
可是达赖自己是怎么认为的?
当我们黄色作恶或者犯罪的时候,我们还有一个传统说法.
ANDY安迪: ...
陆JOHN : only SKY ,Earth, you and me know what happen. if I kill you, no one else will know.
天知地知,你知我知。(就是说如果只有我们两人),如果我杀了你,没有其他任何人会知道(真相 )。
ANDY安迪: hehe呵呵
陆JOHN : that is they way to keep liar alive.
这就是他们保持谎言不被揭穿的方法。
ANDY安迪: also in the West in many cases is that kind of thinking
在西方也有很多人报有同样的想法。
陆JOHN : Christianity make different.
只有基督教让这一切改变。
ANDY安迪: so you should introduce ten commandments into China. but the West will not allow that the ten commandment will introduces into China. as long as it is not written in the heart of people there is no danger for a society getting really strong
所以,你应该将十诫引入中国。但是西方不会让十诫被引入中国的。只要它被写入人们的心里,一个社会真正变得 强大是没有危害的。
陆JOHN : depends on how and which western you are referred to..
取决于你所指的西方是那一个,和西方如何。。。。

陆JOHN : that is why yellow educate people ,that they are the God of Chinese.
you know, there is written in Bible, at some moment of time, people can not hear his words.... I believe it is this time in China.
这就是黄色为什么教育中国人,他们是中国人的上帝的原因。
你知道吗,其实圣经里面已经写明了的。到一定的时候人们将不能听到他的话语。。。我认为现在中国的状况就是 这样了。
ANDY安迪: yeah... maybe now God prepares the Chinese heart to receive the word of God
是的,也许现在神在准备中国人的心来接受上帝的话语。
陆JOHN : 5000 year yellow history, is an great pride for any flesh being. that is what they educated our chinese.even if there is no historic evidence to prove that yellow has 5000 years history.
5000年文明历史,对任何是一个血肉之躯都是一个难以抗拒的骄傲。这就是黄色如何教育我们中国人的,即使 根本到今天都没有任何现代历史学意义上能够成立的证据来证明(中华民族)真的有5000年文明 历史。
ANDY安迪: of course... when Jesus was there the Jews also praised themselves of having thousands of year’s history. But luckily for them there was always somebody there who awakened them from their dreaming... but nothing like this ever happened in China. this is the real problem…also Germany had always the "luck" that many times in their history somebody came crushing old and worn out habits. the Romans came, the Spanish, the French, the Austrians, the Swedish, completely spoiling the things

当然了,当年耶稣在的时候犹太人同样自我崇拜他们有数千年的历史。但是幸运的是,总是有其他人将它们从自己 的梦境中间唤醒。而在中国,这种现象从来没有发生过。这就是中国问题的所在。德国也有这种“幸运”,在德国 历史上无数次的都有人来粉碎我们传统上老的坏习惯。罗马人,西班牙人,法国人,奥地利人,瑞典人,完全将德 国传统败坏了。
陆JOHN : yes, I think that the Chinese character contribute a lot to this situation.
是的,我认为中文字本身也对此现象推波助澜。
陆JOHN : Japan come, Mongolia come,Manchuian come, they change nothing in yellow.
日本人来过,蒙古人来过,满族人来过,他们对黄色毫无办法。
ANDY安迪: YESSSSSSSS, Yellow was stronger (hehe)
是的,”黄色”太强壮了。呵呵
ANDY安迪: so what to do?
那该怎么办呢?
陆JOHN : yellow know how to satisfy the flesh. more than everything.
“黄色”最懂得的就是知道该如何满足肉体。
ANDY安迪: hehe呵呵
ANDY安迪: the know how to use the reproduction organs to control people
他们知道该如何用生殖器官来控制人们。
ANDY安迪: (rofl)
陆JOHN : yes... and we enjoy it.是的,而我们都很享受。
ANDY安迪: and whatever you do you are never guilty!!!!!
无论做什么事情,你们都没有罪恶感!!!
陆JOHN : yes,是的。
陆JOHN : we can do nothing, just leave it to HIM.
对此,我们无能为力,只有交托给上帝。
ANDY安迪: one question about the emperor... do they need the emperor as a kind of excuse? : we are never guilty because the emperor theoretically bears all the responsibilities
有关皇帝的一个问题。。他们会将皇帝(的作为)作为一个借口吗?
我们德国人从来没有罪恶感,因为皇帝从理论上来说承担了所有责任。
陆JOHN : no guilty till it was found or proved we are guilty by Yellow. Hehe.
the emperor is always holly, never commit any evil. that is Chinese yellow believe.
不会,除非“黄色”发现或者证明了我们是有罪的。。呵呵皇帝永远神圣正确,从来不会犯任何罪孽。这就是我们 中国人的黄色信仰。
ANDY安迪: so he is able to be blamed... indirectly
这么说来他还是可以被责备的。。。间接地。
陆JOHN : that means we Chinese is evil and crime, if we are not inline with Emperor.
这意味着我们中国人一旦同皇帝不一致了,就是邪恶和犯罪了。
ANDY安迪: whatever happens emperor can be blamed because he is like god? ,
就因为他像上帝一样,无论做什么皇帝都不可以被责备?
陆JOHN : there is no choice for Chinese mind. we say there is no god. so, your question is no meaning for yellow. Hehe
对中国人的心里而言,这里无可选项。我们认为没有上帝,因此你的问题对我们“黄色”而言没有意 义。呵呵
ANDY安迪: but Emperor is god?
那么说对你们中国人而言,皇帝就是神了?
陆JOHN : Emperor owns us, owns everything.
在中国,皇帝拥有我们,拥有一切。
ANDY安迪: hmmm啊。。。
陆JOHN : emperor never make, commit any crime. Hehe.
皇帝从来不做,不犯罪。呵呵。
ANDY安迪: so nobody is responsible for anything. people blame emperor... emperor blames people
是这样的话,那在中国,没有人对任何事情负责。人们责备皇帝,皇帝责备人民。
陆JOHN : no. always somebody is responsible for everything bad in China. it is some other is traitors, or foreigners. Hehe.
不对,在中国总是有一些人会为中国发生的坏事情承担责任的。有时候是卖国贼,或者外国人。呵呵 。
ANDY安迪: but always the "OTHER”, of course
无论如何总是“其他人”,当然了。
陆JOHN : you are one of those to be blamed for the misfortune in China...
你就是在中国这些不幸中应该被责备的人之一。
ANDY安迪: white devils!!!鬼佬!!!
陆JOHN : yes.是的。
ANDY安迪: the son of my brother is now 15 years old..... Jacob is his name, everybody is guilty, everything, except Jacob. and for all the problems Mr. Jacob has ONLY the others have to be blamed
我兄弟的儿子今年15岁,他叫雅阁布。无论任何不好的事情,雅阁布先生总是责备其他人。每个人,每件事情都 是有罪的,除了雅阁布。
陆JOHN : he is Chinese now...
那他现在就是中国人了。
ANDY安迪: hahah哈哈
陆JOHN : may be he used too many Chinese toys....
也许他玩太多的中国产玩具了。
ANDY安迪: toys... hehehe呵呵呵
ANDY安迪: but he will leave this stage when he is 18 or 20
但是,他到18或20岁的时候就会离开这种心理阶段的。
陆JOHN : it is not possible in china.
这在中国是不可能的。
ANDY安迪: they will never leave this stage... I know
他们永远不会离开这个阶段。。。。我知道。
陆JOHN : in this information pig farm. we will never be 18 +.
在这个信息猪圈中,我们绝对不会成年。
ANDY安迪: in this way I really like to be in China because there nobody forces u to feel guilty. you can feel innocent!!!
是这样的话,我真的希望到中国去,因为没有人会强迫你有罪恶感。你们能感到自己是无辜的!!!
陆JOHN : Jacob possible. you are not.雅阁布可能。你已经不可能了。
ANDY安迪: not for always... but a couple of week once in a while
即使不会永远如此,但是至少几周时间有可能。
陆JOHN : once God is ,or was with you, it end the joy you can feel in china. or in yellow.
一旦上帝进入过,或者与你同在,你能在中国,或者说黄色中感受到的欢乐就结束了。
ANDY安迪: yes是的。
ANDY安迪: but I deeply understand China now
现在我更加深刻的了解中国了。
陆JOHN : keep the childish think of Chinese, it the way to make evil survive forever .. that is what they are doing now in china.
让中国人保持像孩子一样的心理状态,这就是让邪恶永远生存之道。这也就是现在他们在中国所作的 了。
ANDY安迪: like always... but in some way they succeeded for 5000 years in this
就像他们一直所为的一样。但是,在一定程度上他们这样成功的进行了5000年了。
陆JOHN : read the bible, you can understand it , Jewish way. it is not proved to be 5000 year. actually, the history of 5000 is just a yellowish saying. no scientific prove.
读圣经,就可以了解它。犹太人的方式。
可是,那根本不是科学证实的5000年历史。事实上,5000年历史就是典型的黄色的说法。没有任何科学依 据。
ANDY安迪: 10 commandments: then woman and her spirit has no chance any more.
有了十诫,然后女人心态以及她的灵魂就没有机会了。
ANDY安迪: 2. Kings 9,33.
见圣经《列王记下》9:33
ANDY安迪: like any other lie... I know this!
就像其它谎言一样。。。。我知道这些。
陆JOHN : but ,it is very alcoholic dreaming for our childish Chinese mind.
但是对我们中国式孩子思维而言,它是非常具有酒精一样梦幻魔力的。
ANDY安迪: Whether East or West we are all addicted to our dreams... Only in West the lie is a bit differently located than in the East.
无论东方还是西方,我们都醉心于我们的梦境。在西方唯一区别是梦境的位置有些不一样。
陆JOHN : hope and dream drive us weak up in the morning... we need it anyway.
是这些盼望和梦境促使我们早上醒来。。。我们在某种程度上需要它。
ANDY安迪: like opium就像鸦片。
陆JOHN : yes,是的。
ANDY安迪: I think China needs you in china... to tell them again and again and again and again我认为中国需要你在中国。。。。去一遍又一遍的告诉他们。
陆JOHN : I am telling over internet sometime. that is the only possible space for this kind of think survives. or the yellow can not occupied. there are many of Chinese doing this now.
有时,我通过互联网告诉他们。这是目前唯一能够让这些思想生存,或者还没有被黄色侵占的地方。已经有许多中 国人在做这些事情了。
ANDY安迪: you know most of the first missionaries that came to Germany were killed.... but others came behind
你知道吗,多数先期来到德国的宗教使团都被杀了。。但是其他的从后面跟上来了。
[19:18:24] 陆JOHN : I am the weak and not as brave as those missionary.
我个人非常软弱,不如那些宗教使团一样勇敢。
[19:18:25]ANDY安迪: but those others tending to preaching Yellow message instead the message of the CROSS
但是,那些其他后面跟随而来的,不是要传十字架的救恩而是要传黄色。
[19:18:37] 陆JOHN : I was trained as Chinese army officer, please remember. I don’t want to die or in war without the fair battle field.
要知道,我从小被培养为中共的军官。我不要去送死,或者在一个没有公平的战场上进行战争。
ANDY安迪: yes..still some old substance inside you. like with me... however I only was trained as a carpenter. in mission work the real opponent is Satan.. so there is never "fair" battle field
所以,仍然有一些旧的东西在你里面。就像我一样。。可是我只不过是一个木匠。
在宗教事工中,真正的敌人就是撒旦。。所以从来不存在“公平”的战场。
陆JOHN : we will try to create an relatively fair play war field, which they can not trick to win. or just use their guns followed by their liar. Hehe in china, they do not believe in there is Satan or God. they just control the media of God. they cut and occupy the ear, mouth, and eye.
我们将试图建立一个相对公平的战场,在哪里他们不可能通过诡计战胜我们。或者像他们现在一样,谎言之后就是 坦克机枪。在中国,他们不相信有魔鬼或者上帝。他们直接控制本来属于上帝的媒体,媒介。他们割去或者侵占人 的耳朵,嘴巴和眼睛。
ANDY安迪: but the cross is stronger!!!!!!!11但是十字架更加强大!!!
陆JOHN : cross will fight for us. I use my way to fight.
十字架会为我们征战。我用我的方法战斗。
ANDY安迪: it needed 500 years of tough mission work until the last tribe in Germany was baptized
经过了500年艰苦卓绝的宣教,最后一个德国部落才受洗。
陆JOHN : you know in 1989,6.4. I told my classmate, that they will kill. but nobody believes me. no body listens to me.
你知道1989年六四的时候。我告诉我的同学们,他们会杀人的,当时没有人相信我。没有人听我 的。
ANDY安迪: hehe,when the prophets in the bible were speaking also nobody believed. but now all your classmates do believe, right?
呵呵。当时圣经里面的先知说话的时候也没有人相信。现在你所有的同学都信了?对吗?
陆JOHN : they did not believe that the yellow is bastard killer in nature. they want to see miracle with their eyes.
他们不相信黄色是王八蛋屠夫的本性。他们要用自己的眼睛看到神迹显现才相信。
ANDY安迪: yes..是的。
陆JOHN : but life passed away, and the yellow is trying to deny there was killing.
但是这么多生命失去了,而黄色一直试图抵赖他们进行了屠杀。 _(博讯记者:陆士绅) [博讯首发,转载请注明出处]- 支持此文作者/记者(博讯 boxun.com)
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