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ZT: an interesting discuss between a gernman carpenter and a Chinese anti-government Mr. John .

Why the world wide demonstration of China Supporters give an" yellow preish" cold in western? What happen behind this nice looking mordernized China's hardware side?

Pleae read this interesting discuss ,both in english and Chinese translation
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黄色、黄祸、犹太诡计与全球“爱国示威”/陆士绅
(博讯北京时间2008年5月01日 首发 - 支持此文作者/记者)

从“黄色”,“黄祸”,犹太诡计,谈中国人全球示威 的心理背景
---------------------与一个德国木匠弟兄的网络闲聊录



(按:从西方去到中国的“奥运圣火”传递演变成了中国孩子们精彩的全球性示威。是什么驱动着要“崛起”与“ 和谐”的中国人在西方世界表达愤怒?为什么从这些个示威中的中国孩子们表现出来的团结一致的“爱国”力量, 却让世人感受到“黄祸”的阴冷?
附注:1.“黄色”是我们在网络聊天中,共同创造来用来描述在中国掌管话语权的那个力量。
2.耶户说,把她扔下来。他们就把她扔下来。她的血溅在墙上和马上。于是把她践踏了。--------------圣经《列王记下》9:33)
ANDY安迪: 你好!。
陆JOHN: hi嗨!
ANDY安迪: haw is life today?近来怎样?
陆JOHN : good.还好。
ANDY安迪: now Chinese are demonstrating all over the world....
现在中国人在全世界示威哦。。。。呵呵。
陆JOHN : yellow believe they are strong now.“黄色”认为他们现在强大了嘛。
陆JOHN : hehe呵呵
ANDY安迪: now nobody is cruising CCP any more!所以现在没有任何中国人继续批中共了啊!是吗?
陆JOHN : yes, everybody love china.是的,人人都很爱国了嘛。
ANDY安迪: so you are on lost position for a while...所以你们(指海外敌对势力:按中共定义)现在是暂时处于输的地位了啊。
陆JOHN : they want you worship yellow.. 他们也要你们西方去朝拜“黄色”。
ANDY安迪: so at least for the Olympics to come the have a united China....
所以,至少将要召开的奥运会让他们得到了一个统一的中国了。
陆JOHN : there is an chance for Chinese release their temper and angry,joy and happiness. It is like a Festival.
这些个示威是一个中国人释放他们压抑已久的脾气和愤怒,欢乐和幸福的机会。就像一个节日,呵呵 。
ANDY安迪: yes, focusing on foreigner...
是的,通过聚焦在外国人身上。。
ANDY安迪: and this was the master plan behind,crushing down a society without guns。Typical Jewish master mind in this case I think,
这背后似乎有一个完美的计划,不用枪炮而让一个社会屈服。在我看来,这些示威背后是被典型的犹太的心理支配 着的。
陆JOHN : Jewish is something wise and right most of the time.
在我看来,犹太人大多数时间总是比较聪明和正确的。
ANDY安迪: yes... they know how to loose always but win everything at the end。What happens now in China is a real Jewish counseling。
是的,他们知道如何在不断的失败的过程中,最后赢得胜利。看起来,目前在中国发生的(这些事件)是有一个真 实的犹太式心理动机支配的。
陆JOHN : you know that one of the goodness in Church or any other religious ceremony.... In church, people gathering, and saying the same words, meet each others just for believed in something common。
你有没有发现,基督教教堂聚会或者其他宗教礼仪的一个好处?在这些宗教聚会中,人们聚集说同样的话语,在一 些共同的信仰下面相见。
ANDY安迪: tell me more about church继续聊聊有关教堂的事情。
陆JOHN : this rights in china now is not allowed: no mass gathering ,no public meeting, no openly church service.. The feeling you have had in any mass meeting or church is not replaceable for the experience in our life...
而这些权利现在在中国是不允许的:比如大规模集会,公开集会,开放的教会服侍。。。(对个人而言)那种通过 参加那些大规模聚会,会议,游行示威,产生的感受和所带来的心理体验是人生中不可替代的难忘经 历。
ANDY安迪: what happens if Chinese people will also start demonstrating... not in Korea but in CHINA???? And the Chinese that now demonstrate around will ask to do this also in China sometimes...
你认为,如果中国人开始示威的话会发生什么呢?。。不是在韩国,而是在中国的话??这些现在在全世界示威的 中国人,他们不会有也想在中国示威的时候吧?
陆JOHN : they will not allowed to demonstrating in china...... If there is demonstration in China, it is must sponsored by government, in them name of Empire... hehe, as it was in 1900s.
他们不会允许在中国示威的。如果中国现在有大规模示威的话,一定是政府推动的,以皇帝的名义进行的。呵呵, 就像在1900年代(义和团事件)一样.
ANDY安迪: hahaha呵呵呵。
ANDY安迪: you know Jewish mind always thinks around the corners
你知道犹太人的智慧吗,他们总是在事情的极端处思维。
陆JOHN : Peace and harmony.... That is always the excuse for dictatorship ruling... actually, I know little about Jewish, before I believe in Jesus.
在中国,和平与和谐。。。是独裁统治永恒的借口。实际上,我对犹太思想知道的非常有限,特别是在我信耶稣以 前。
ANDY安迪: Jews know how the minds of Chinese work....
犹太人知道中国人是怎么想的。。。
陆JOHN : Jews may know how the minds of human works......
犹太人也许知道人的心里是如何工作的。。。。
ANDY安迪: I think CCP is controlled by Jews... and the Jews will help CCP now to stay in power我认为中共是被犹太人控制了,。。而犹太将帮助中共继续掌权。
陆JOHN : no, impossible.不,完全不可能。
ANDY安迪: but now it is typical Jewish finger print how they use Tibet for making people happy about CCP
但是现在从他们通过西藏事件使中国人对中共好感的情况看起来,这里有典型的犹太指印。
陆JOHN : it is the yellow in control as always. All those words and reasoning, theory about China, the collective symbol of China is come from the only source: CCP yellow's mind. It is simple easy in China.
哪里,同以前(历史上)一样,是““黄色””在起作用。所有有关中国的话语和推理,有关中国作为一个集体意 义上的符号的话语体系来自一个源泉:中共的黄色心理。
在中国非常容易做到。
ANDY安迪: yes是的。
陆JOHN : think about the Information Pig Farm in China.
只要你明白中国的“信息猪圈”是怎么回事。
ANDY安迪: tell me please ,about pig farm... just see pig farm and nothing else...
请谈谈,有关猪圈。。(你是说中国人)只看到猪圈,没有其他的?。。。
陆JOHN : and you are feed with it since you are child. That is the Information Pig Farm.
而你从小孩开始就被这样喂养。那就是指“信息猪圈”。
ANDY安迪: ic是这样。。
陆JOHN : all those feelings, words system are feed, planted into the minds of Chinese.
we do not have another choice or any other different terms and words system to describe the situation in Tibet or any other political stuff.
所有这些感受,话语体系都被灌输,被植入到中国人的心理了。(除了他们喂养的东西)我们中国人都没有其他任 何选择,或者其他不同的话语词汇体系去描述西藏或者其他任何政治事务。
ANDY安迪: yes是的。
陆JOHN : actually, we are disabled for independent thinking and understanding for anything else beside of the government's feed stuffs...
事实上,除了中共政府喂养的东西之外,我们中国人都被DISABLED(终止了)独立思考或理解任何事物的 能力。
ANDY安迪: yeah... a not heavy "anus" for leaving old things behind。
原来如此。。。。缺少一个排泄旧事物的“肛门”
陆JOHN : that is why ,they said ,you hurt the feeling of Chinese, I as an Chinese , will automatically feel this hurt.hehe
这就是为什么,当他们说你们西方伤害我们中国人的感情了的时候,我作为一个个体的中国人,会自动感受到这个 伤害的原因。呵呵。
ANDY安迪: in this way Chinese society was able to manage the past 2000 years...
这也就是过去2000年中国社会能够被这样管制的原因。
陆JOHN : that is an mass meeting feeling , church experience as part of some group, collective mass. we have no choice to belong to any specific independent group in CHINA. either you be CCP member, or be Chinese...: no other groups, even the churches are government, the other parties are leadership under CCP....;
这是一种大规模集会的感觉,教会的体验,一种归属感,属于某个集体的感觉。而我们在中国已经没有选择属于任 何特定的独立团体的选择权了。或者是“共产党员”,或者是“中国人”。。。。在中国,除了这两个组织之外, 没有其他任何(独立)组织团体,甚至教会和其他党派都是在中共的领导之下的。。。。
ANDY安迪: Jews also tried to stay in their own temple for ever and ever.... but luckily always somebody came and pushed the Jews away from their old rubbish
犹太人也是试图永远住在他们的庙宇中间。。幸运的是,总是有些人来将犹太人从他们的老旧垃圾堆中间赶出去。 。。
but will they be able to sustain this system without loosing everything?????
但是,他们能不能继续维持这个系统而不失去一切呢?
陆JOHN : impossible. it is not belonging to them, it is belong to HIM. They must loss everything, they know that. and because they killed so many Chinese, and they know that they will be revenged physically.
不可能。世界不是属于他们的,而是属于上帝的。
他们一定会失去一切(不属于他们的),他们知道的。
因为他们杀了这么多的中国人,他们知道他们会受到生理意义上的报复。

ANDY安迪: you see on this fact in yellow mind the Jews are building,the Jews know that Chinese never will really change... nevernevernever
你看,在事实上,是犹太在建造黄色思想,犹太人知道中国人将永远不会改变。。。
永远永远永远(不改变)
陆JOHN : there is no mercy in yellow culture.在黄色文化中间没有怜悯。
ANDY安迪: no mercy... on this the Jews are counting,because if there is no mercy there is also no real strength
没有怜悯。。。这一点上犹太正在点算。。。因为没有怜悯就没有真正的强大。
陆JOHN : yes.是的。
陆JOHN : but whom in yellow care about real strength?
但是,在黄色中生活的人们,谁会在乎真正的强大呢?
ANDY安迪: for being merciful you need inner strength.... only in the masses they are strong,因为怜悯需要来自内心的强大。。。。而他们那些(”黄色”心理支配下的)中国人,只有在大众 意义上他们才会强壮。
陆JOHN : we yellow do not believe in any inner or software side of life.
“黄色”根本不相信有任何内在的,或者说软件意义上的生命存在。
ANDY安迪: Yellow is only strong in masses
“黄色”只有在群众里面才有力量。
陆JOHN : yellow perish. that is the nature of yellow. it is the power to destroy, not to constructive this world.
这就是“黄祸”。这就是黄色的本性。这是毁灭的力量,而不是建造这个世界的力量。
ANDY安迪: it perished always in the past 2000 years... but there were always enough new yellows to jump into the gab,that was their system I think in their whole history
在过去2000多年来它不断被摧毁。。。但是总是有足够的新的黄色前仆后继的跳入这个垃圾里。我认为这就是 在他们整个历史中的(心里)系统。
陆JOHN : history of China, is the history of yellow: killing ,adultery, and fear. we do never believe there is anything goes beyond our earth life.
中国的历史,就是黄色的历史:屠杀,色情,和恐怖。我们从来都没有相信过有任何东西(的生存)会超出我们在 这个世界上的生命岁月而存在下去。
ANDY安迪: a kind of luxury that is only possible if there are always enough people available...这是一种奢侈的文化,只有在总是有足够的人命供应的地方才会发生。。。
陆JOHN : the good things today, is that enough people is not the key to successful ruling ,actually it is an burden for yellow. so, they are even thinking about how to reduce the population.
在今天的世界,好的一面就是大量的人命不再是成功统治的必须,众多的人口实际上成了黄色的负担。所以他们想 到该如何减少人口。
ANDY安迪: in some way an advantage in the other way of course disadvantage
优势也有变成劣势的时候。
陆JOHN : the best and fast way is by war, an modern war. nuke or bio...... there is always enemy on their way to glorious of Yellow, and western is the best enemy for them to unite and ruling with no civil or abnormal means. these are the simplest and easiest way to create terror in China. in 1950s, it is the RoC, korea war of America, in 1960s, it is RUSSIA. Vietnamese in 1980s…
对他们来说,最有效和快速的方式,就是战争,核战或者生化战。。。在他们荣耀黄色的道路上总是有敌人,而西 方是他们不进行内战或者采取其他非常手段而达到团结或者说统治(中国社会)最好的敌人。这是在中国制造(敌 人)恐怖心态的最简单和容易的方法。
在50年代,敌人就是台湾的国民党,韩战时期的美国人,60年代是苏联人。。。。80年代是越 南人。。
ANDY安迪: that is what is say... they are severing each other not using machines guns but using media to control peoples' mind,
这就是说。。它们狼狈为奸。不使用机枪,而采取媒体来控制人们的思想。
ANDY安迪: media is the weapon if you do not have a real weapon
在你没有真正武器的时候,媒体就是武器。
陆JOHN : machine Gus and media come together. media first, if fail, machine gun.
他们是媒体和机枪一起来的。媒体在先,机枪在后。
ANDY安迪: Jews have no helicopter, no tank, no bomb, nothing. They only have media, communism, and etc。。and Christianity is also a kind of Jewish media... (hehehe)
犹太人没有直升机,没有坦克,没有炸弹,什么都没有。他们只有媒体,共产主义,等等。。呵呵,在这个意义上 ,基督教也是某种意义上的犹太媒体。
陆JOHN : but Jewish in Israel have all of this, and win these wars over Islamic till today.
但是,今天以色列的犹太人(媒体和武器)都有,并且直到今天都是战胜了伊斯兰国家。
陆JOHN : yes, they know it is. this is war time. communisms believe in material. they start from killing with what ever they can took,
是的,他们知道。这是战时状态。共产主义相信物质力量,他们就是从不择手段的杀人起家的。
ANDY安迪: yes, without communism the whole East would be much stronger than it is today
是的,如果没有共产主义,东方会比今天强大得多。
陆JOHN : they believe it is the advanced weapon, that western culture ruling this world.
他们认为是因为你们有先进的武器,所以西方统治世界。
ANDY安迪: communism made the Easter people to kill themselves
是共产主义让东方人自相残杀。
陆JOHN : no ,we kill all the time, with or without communism. communism and Darwin theory just justified with another reason for killing.
不对,我们总是自相残杀,无论有没有共产主义。共产主义和达尔文进化论只是将现代屠杀“道德化”,为屠杀人 提供了新的借口而已。