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Old 04-08-2008, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois View Post
OK, your argument is a strawman. Your argument is so weak and illogical that it's as easy to beat as a strawman.
THEN DO IT. Saying it is and proving it is are two different things.


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Thus far, your quotes from the Founders have not demonstrated your central premise,
Yes, they have.

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and you undermine your own argument by criticizing the founders because they "didn't forsee that the larger body wouldn't protect their vision" while at the same time trying to use their words to support the vision you have been advocating here. You use the Founders for what you're promoting here and then quietly undercut them by saying how they lacked vision.
Again, this is a Straw Man. The "lack of foresight" speaks to one element of protecting the issue - not the issue itself.

Your claim is that by saying I believed they "lacked foresight in such-and-such" - this can then be applied to everything they said regardless of context. That is not a logical argument by any stretch of the imagination. That is a clear Fallacy of Composition.


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Since you are resorting to insults about how people who do not acknowledge this are dishonest, I will not reply to this section. You have been given a warning in private messages about implied insults.
I see no logical reason why anyone would take such a statement as an insult. It was not implied insult. I'm just letting you know that. However, I doubt you'll retract the warning.

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