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Old 04-07-2008, 11:11 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I have a professor named Alan Flanders at the TCC campus in Norfolk. He was a teacher at the Newport military school for 25 years. He told me this.

But if you want proof, then maybe I can scrap something together from the internet.

That is a picture of the American Expeditionary Force Siberia that was in the Russian Civil War in Vladivostok, Russia, during the tail end of World War I after the October Revolution, from 1918 to 1920.
The USSR came into existance in 1922.

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You know the very theme of communism sort of explains away the reasons for why Americans forces would be involved. Maybe you need to understand some things about Woodrow Wilson that you didn't know already.

But let me put it simply. The Russians were becoming communist. Western governments and societies feared communism, example "The Red Scare." If that doesn't explain it to you, then I'm sorry.
Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah, nobody liked communism, which is why European, Japanese, US and other forces intervened in the civil war, taking the side of the anti-Bolshevik forces.

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As for the Baath regime in Iraq, hold on a sec.

Norm Dixon: How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons
Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein
Democracy Now! | The Reagan-Saddam Connection: "We Create These Monsters And When It's Not Convenient We Cover Them Up"
Bear Left!: Three Lessons for America
The crimes of a U.S. ally

As for the puppet part in us bringing him into power. I'm still looking for that. But these should hopefully provide you with enough information about America/Saddam relations.
Yeah, I know about aiding Iraq during the 80s, but I wanted to know how it was the US put the Ba'ath and Saddam in power. I don't think you will find anything but conspiracy theories. The only thing I've ever seen was someone's idea that the CIA encouraged Ba'ath Party members to stage a coup in Iraq since the previous regime was pro-Soviet. It's not too far-fetched really, but encouraging and placing into power are two very different things.

America chose to side with Saddam in the 80s during the Iran-Iraq War, which seemed like the lesser of two evils, which is why our support officially went to Iraq. Most western countries felt the same way. Yeah yeah, Iran-Contra, another mistake that further bit America in the ass. But I guess we at least learned that you can't make deals with terrorists.
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