Originally Posted by Future Leader

oh, i have faith alright, i have faith indeedy. i have faith that man is what created man, the logic we were born with (not given) has created the world we live in today. not some daddy figuer saying "be good or burn" though that phrase is what made religion so popular in the old days.



but you see, god didnt bring you through those trials, maybe the thought of god kept you up, but you are what kept you up, god has nothing to do with it.

i like the quote by stalin (read down below)

to resident athiest: only god can except your apology, wait he doesnt exist lol, so yeah i forgive you.

really my theologian friends, cant yall accept that ya might be wrong? many of gods so called "miracles" witch your faioth is based on has been proven scientificly, like the exodous, i saw a show recenlty called "exodous decoded" that pretty much explanied how it all may have happened (look for it on good or you tube).

and mrnumbersman i guess i dont understand you type of faith, because i see no reason to have the faith to believe in god, there has been no proof what so ever that i need, should, or have to believe in god other then "ye shall perish with out the belssings of god blah blah blah" and thats not really convincing seeing how i keep hearing from all the jesus freaks "god loves you he forgives all" and if that be the case thar be no reason to believe in him cause he will forgive and let me through the gates any ways (assuming he exists). your type of faith relies on your preist (or what ever holy man tells you what to believe) to tell you the "nature of god" even tho christians constantly tout "god works in mysterios ways" well how the hell can people tout the nature of god if they dont even know how he works. and another thing about the hypocracy of religios people, why do so many fanatics hate gay people? they say god created every 1 and every thing, well maybe god made gay people? and i see all these rallies with signs "god hates gays" "sodomy is a sin","blah blah blah i have nothing better to do with my time" well ya know what? if god is so god dam omnipotent and so all god dam forgiving not only would he know that gay people would populate the earth he would also forgive them. and hell, maybe they dont need to have forgivness because god might actualy be a big fruit himself. people dont know jack shit about god or what he wants and yet morons still listen to preachers who just use his name for profit, now how am i supose to believe in a god that every tellls me about when all they are doing is blowing steam out of thier asses?

so instead of looking like a jackass and saying that i know what god wants or inacting his will im gonna stick with facts over faith.