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Originally Posted by Caltex
You can quote one scientist who denies evolution, but that doesn't make it true. There is overwhelming consensus that it has occured. The debate is now between gradual evolution or punctuated equilibrium evolution.
Beyond that biochemistry is not evolutionary biology, his mastery is not in the study of evolution but in Biochemistry, the study of chemical processes in living organisms.
Here is what Christians are doing, they have a preconceived notion of a god, that created man. They see the evidence, then try to make their preconceived notion work. The notion is not based off of what the facts show, but off of the beliefs already held. It's just like the old Greek Philosophers and their models of the Universe. They all had Aristotle's notions of uniform motion if their heads, and tried to make their observations of the Universe match their preconceived notions. The Catholic Church adopted Aristotle's viewpoint and persecuted anyone who challenged that with Heresy. With a Scientific viewpoint, that goes in without preconceived notions, or is at least ready to throw them out if the facts reject them, we now know the earth revolves around the sun, and that our universe is a whole lot bigger than our solar system.
The facts show natural evolution. The debate is how that evolution occurs. The "Theory of Evolution" is that it occurs by natural selection. Evolution is a fact, how it occurs is a theory.
I could look up and name a few hundred thousand scientists who believe in evolution. Does that beat a handful of hacks that can be thrown out by creationists.
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Yes that would beat the so called "hacks" in TIME magazine I referenced. While you look that up I will try and compile a list of the hundreds of MILLION Christians which will of course beat your handful of scientific hacks.
As I recall you and I agreed to disagree since our arguments had become circular at best. You for a fact can not prove unequivocally that there is no God. I can not prove unequivocally that there is a God, I just have my faith in God and you have your faith in science and evolution. In Chess we call this a stalemate.
My discussion now is with someone else because neither of us is going to convince or change the mind of the other Caltex, I still have hopes for some of these other guys.