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africanhope · 04-05-2008, 06:20 PM

This idea and this mapwas postedhere before, nothing new. Again, I always laugh when people want to create a problem so that there can a be a solution. SA has very little ethnic problems at this moment. So deviding Sa on ethnic grounds is just silly. (and saying it is language, not ethnic lines, is false, since the two are the same thing)

Also, to prove the above, if it is on language grounds, why is there a sesotho and a Setswana region, their languages are identical. And in SA we do speak the same language - every person in this country is fully English speaking. So thhe idea that this is based on language is false.

Also, the people do not want a federation of this type (refering to your first map) in 1910, Lesotho, Botswana and Swaziland and then Rhodesia refused to join the new union of South Africa. NAm in 1989 refused to stay part of SA, but rather became independent. And SA, with it's releivly strong econmy, would not want to join with LEsotho, Swaziland and Zimbabwe, al 3 of which are part of the poorest countries in the world list.

I am all for a Federate system in SA, but nased on our current provinces, and not on language or ethnical grounds.

Lastly, a Volkstaat? Really? What aboutthe indiginous peoples of that region (which is so damned arrid). They outnumber the Afrikaners in that area, so why should this then be an Afikaner area. This map was first put forward by Pieter Mulder in the late 90's. He is the leader of the far right wing nationalist Afirkaner party, the FF+. That is the reasoning behind this idea.

AH

04-05-2008, 06:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
africanhope Earl Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Potchefstroom, South Africa Posts: 1,559 Country: Country:	This idea and this mapwas postedhere before, nothing new. Again, I always laugh when people want to create a problem so that there can a be a solution. SA has very little ethnic problems at this moment. So deviding Sa on ethnic grounds is just silly. (and saying it is language, not ethnic lines, is false, since the two are the same thing) Also, to prove the above, if it is on language grounds, why is there a sesotho and a Setswana region, their languages are identical. And in SA we do speak the same language - every person in this country is fully English speaking. So thhe idea that this is based on language is false. Also, the people do not want a federation of this type (refering to your first map) in 1910, Lesotho, Botswana and Swaziland and then Rhodesia refused to join the new union of South Africa. NAm in 1989 refused to stay part of SA, but rather became independent. And SA, with it's releivly strong econmy, would not want to join with LEsotho, Swaziland and Zimbabwe, al 3 of which are part of the poorest countries in the world list. I am all for a Federate system in SA, but nased on our current provinces, and not on language or ethnical grounds. Lastly, a Volkstaat? Really? What aboutthe indiginous peoples of that region (which is so damned arrid). They outnumber the Afrikaners in that area, so why should this then be an Afikaner area. This map was first put forward by Pieter Mulder in the late 90's. He is the leader of the far right wing nationalist Afirkaner party, the FF+. That is the reasoning behind this idea. AH __________________ “The subject no longer has to be mentioned by name. Someone is sick. Someone else is feeling better now. A friend has just gone back into the hospital. Another has died. The unspoken name, of course, is AIDS.” “From the point of view of the pharmaceutical industry, the AIDS problem has already been solved. After all, we already have a drug which can be sold at the incredible price of $8, 000 an annual dose, and which has the added virtue of not diminishing the market by actually curing anyone.”