First: i never said any of these things hold true for everybody...
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
People kill each other by thousands every day in the name of money, sex or drugs.....so I dont see your point here. You act as if without religion no one would ever be killed...lets be realistic here shall we?
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Well some people kill themselves and others in the name of religion... You can't win an election in the US without being religious and that gave us G. W. Bush... He started a world-spanning war and invaded 2 countries... Let's get rid of religion and we'll get drugs and politics later...
(*DO NOT READ IF CATHOLIC* The Vatican actually supported Nazi Germany during WW2... It might just have been in order to survive but the rest of Italia turned too and Spain and Ireland remained neutral...)
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
Everyone in the world does this and you dont need to be religious for this broad generalization to apply to you I know plenty of Atheists who pollute so again I fail to grasp the logic of this argument , religious people are not solely responsible for pollution.
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Watch "Jesus Camp" and come back to me... You'll find that some fundamentalists don't care shit for the environment simply because they believe that the Harmageddon is moving closer...
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
Your quoting from a known cult "Jehovah's witnesses and yes they are known for this type of stupidity which is why any true christian shuns them.
again a broad sweeping statement about all religions when in fact it applies to less then 1%.
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Not really... In many third world countries they pray instead of going to the doctor... I some village in Africa (can't remember where so sorry for lack of evidence) they believe a virgins blood can cure diseases and such... Therefor some girls all the way down to age 4 are being raped as a way of curing AIDS... Oh holy Maria, come back to me
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
Just as scientists oppose religion because they believe these is no proof or that the rest of us suffer from a lack of education on evolution? Again this so called example is meaningless.
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A priest in the 1920's or so forbid cars because it "gave people a way of getting out of town on Sundays"... I think he was technophobic, but religion gave his meaningless fears power... And what is it, Genetic Manipulation is a sin against god 'cause we change our bodies that was made in his image... Some people didn't even think we should have gone to the moon because god gave us Earth... Abortion? i mean WTF?!
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
Kind of like how anyone who used to think the world was not flat was thought to be delusional or possessed? Through time, logic and investigation it was in fact proven the world was not flat. Again this argument fails to implement even the most basic amount of logic.
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That time religion was the major source behind people being afraid and uneducated... Witchburnings anyone? "Shit! She cured my child! It's the devil, BURN HER!!!" Besides i'm a Dane and we sailed to America a thousand years ago... Even though we were stupid pagans that believed the only way into Valhalla was dying in open combat... The church and it's oh so holy 'the-Earth-is-the-center-of-the-universe'-policy was the only stupifying institution at that time... Galileo Galilei anyone? "It looks like we're turning around the sun" "BLASPHEMY!!! Lock him up!"
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
Religion is no more irrelevant then many scientific facts that were discovered by Newton, Magellan, DaVinci or Einstein hundreds of years ago?
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20,000 years ago there we're absolutely no rules and humans fought each other and killed over raw meat... How much relevance does Survival of the Fittest have today? None... Today weak humans are brought to the hospital... Also you can't really compare the rules written in a book with scientific FACT that is used every day in machines and in medicine and in our own minds when we read and count... I just don't think "Eye for Eye" and "stone any women that's unfaithful" is useful in todays society... Not for mentioning "thou shalt not kill"... What good is that gonna do?
(if you believe Adam and Eve were the first humans and the world only is 10,000 years only, just drop this part and we'll discuss the others)
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I couldn't have said it better myself
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Got that right... But respect for being rather well speaking and coming with valid points even as your supporting something i believe is utter bullshit... PROPZORZ 2 TEH 1337!
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Originally Posted by Chesty Puller
As I said before this argument in my mind is ill thought out and comes across as nothing more then an attempt to derail a legitimate thread with meaningless drivel.
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ps: no need to get rude...