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Old 04-03-2008, 07:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Oneday View Post
Some of these are true but not all.



What you said had happened a lot and not uncommon before PRC, and it was a part of Chinese culture at the time. But your knowledge about it really needs some significant updates from this century old impression, since 59 years have passed.

It is one of the major achievements of the GOV to get rid of this and ban marriage between relatives, not within three generations of relatives in fact, and today this sounds ridiculous to chinese people, no matter rich or poor. Even more ridiculous is you said people been put into jail for this.

In China no one can decide a marriage but the the two themselves, and they are free to divorce, too. There are parents who still want their children marry specific people and sometimes result in tragedy if you look at the absolute number, but this happens no more often than other crimes and the parent will be sent into court. In pactice this do have exceptions in places like some rural area in Tibet, which is to respect their culture, and if we force them to abandon this culture, someone will still say we are doing the wrong thing, doesn't it?



The medical system is a miserable disaster I have to admit, especially for the poor and those live in rural areas which counts for half of the population now. The direct reason for this was everything was "Commercialized", consider the benefits groups behind this, the situation won't be easy to change although GOV already promised this year it will enact new plan.

As for the old, it is part of the chinese culture that children take care of their parents, and they live together, too, until the one child policy came out. Old people will have to depand on their pensions after retirement, in cities most people lives ok with it but not very comfort, in country on the other hand two children were allowed to alleviate the stress.

The national walfare system is just start to form, and the fast urbanization process also helps reduce the rural problem. But I think the pain will continue for some time, you can consider current China as US in 1920s or a little earlier, before the start of the social walfare system.
I forgot to respond to the ending of your response Oneday. You say that pain will have to continue until the system of welfare is perfected or the healthcare system in general. Being that I was talking about the pain the offsprings must face because of their family customs and needs, are you stating that the offspring whom are raped and held in the cellar will have to deal with the pain a bit much longer?
What is it that has made people accept such human suffering now days? One person sent me a private message stating that the families should have this right when they are faced with emergencies, and I just can't grasp the fact, that when is it ever okay to take something from someone against the will, especially by drugging them to get it as if that will make it okay because in such a persons rationale, they think since they are not beating them and the person is not conscious it's okay. History is yet repeating itself again, though slavery has never ended at least the most brutal parts of it all was brought down, but in western Tibet rural area, the brutal parts are definitely making a rise or comeback. If you had a kid and wanted to live in some nice subdivision and really couldn't afford it, according to your statement unless you correct it, your are stating that it's okay to hold your kid captive against his or her will and sedate them and pander them out to pay YOUR rent and expenses no-matter how much of a toll it is taking on them? No-matter how much they tell you they hurt? Because when conscious intercourse can be managed, but when sedated the muscles cannot adjusted. So no-matter how much it hurts, again, with the current American reason, it's okay to do this because it's for a greater good the family, no-matter how much the offspring is destroyed.
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