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Originally Posted by lordoftheworld
First, there is no evidence that shows that God did NOT cause the big bang. What caused it you said it, we dont know.
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There is also no evidence that
I did not create the big bang. The argument is moot.
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Second, God is a better explanation b/c everything is in motion. You say the big bang caused everything to be in motion. What caused the big bang, the pure energy? But what caused the pure energy to spark? It sparked from nothingness? No, that is illogical. Only nothing can come from nothingness.
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You're arguing that a god came from nothingness.
Energy by definition is the power to change things. Something doesn't need to act on the energy for it to do work. Do not think of the energy as a molecule of gasoline, that need be lit to release its energy, energy is the result of burning gasoline, not the gasoline itself. Energy is inherently in motion, it is not set in motion by something else.
The theory states that at the beginning it was very dense, very hot, and had very high pressures, and then it expanded at an instant. The Big Bang is the rapid expansion. Like a Supernova of massive proportions, when the density caused by gravity just gets too high, and its blows.
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Third. Exactly there is only one planet that has life, Earth. Pretty odd.
Fourth. If earth was any closer to the sun, human life would not be possible. And further away, human life would not be possible.
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You assume that we are the only life in the universe. This is a flawed assumption. We merely do not know of any other life, that does not mean it does not exist.
There are likely many, many other planets with similar conditions to that of early earth, and could support life in the form that we know it. There is an entire field of science concerned with the origins of life, and how it could arise spontaneously. So far, we know that molecules form spontaneously, and we know that monomers that make up proteins can form spontaneously given the right molecules and an energy source. See the Miller-Urey experiment. Right now the study is on how these monomers could come together to form proteins, and then life. All evidence found so far shows that it is very possible for life to arise spontaneously given the right circumstances.
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I can give you websites that say your wrong. The theory of evolution is just that, a theory. It calls itself that, because there is no evidence that undoubtedly shows the macro. As i have been taught, by books and not the internet, the fossil records show no evidence of mcroevolution. But all that aside, evolution does not dissprove God. Evolution could be through His divine structure. I just refuse to believe that i am the dissendent of a chimp, or that we share a same dissendent.
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My sources are the University of Texas at Austin, and The University of California at Berkeley. I would let my sources credibility go against yours any day.
Evolution does show that a god is not necessary for life to arise, that it can occur by natural means. It's your business if you want to ignore the facts, and blindly believe in something that has zero evidence to support its existence. It is still a belief wrought in denial of the rational, and what if thinking.
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The big bang, honestly i'm skeptical but i go with it b/c that's what people are saying, had to ignite from something. You say pure energy, but why could God not be pure energy. That would make since since it would seem that a God could create matter, and you say pure energy could create matter.
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If a god is the pure energy that begot the big bang, then everything is god. The whole universe is god, and we are part of him. In which case, god would be synonymous with matter the universe and everything in it.
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Neither side can undoubtedly say the other side id undoubtedly wrong b/c neither side has all the evidence. You even admit this when you say we dont know yet what caused the big bang. You cant prove that god doesn't exsist and i cant prove that god does exsist. All i can do is show you that it is possible and rational to believe in God.
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If you take a deistic approach, and give up on the personal god, then I cannot disprove your claims, only show that they are unlikely and irrational. But as long as you hold onto the personal god, it can be disproved by scientific fact which shows that life, the earth, our sun, etc. were all formed by natural processes.
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I never claim to know what God has created, because surely he has created that which i do not know of. Surely we can speak of what we cannot observe. I cannot observe the wind, but i know it's there. I know it can knock down buildings, yet i cannot see the wind.
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You claimed to know that he is involved in the local affairs of earth, and was directly involved in the creation of man. That he laid a trail of evidence out to show we evolved from apes, but that we didn't really. It's just a god trying to trick us!