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Originally Posted by BabyFang
I'm pathetic? You would rather go to hell than even though when you die you will see St.Peter at the Pearly Gates. By the way, death is too late to change your mind.
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Not according to the Mormons. When i die i can choose to accept Jesus and god as the one true god...or not. Thats if they do exist of course. You see, your religion says i can't make amends for my errors when i'm proven right, but the mormons say differently. Confusing.
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Mulitiple gods were invented to explain all things, while Christians and Jews have accepted that not all things can be explained, and that there are things that we will never understand until we reach Heaven and obtain a perfect state.
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In Greece, Rome, Aztec, Mayan. all there gods were made to explain certain things. many gods to explain one or more things. but than the Judeo-Christian god comes along and he is an omnipotent, all powerful all knowing god who does everything by himself. This god was a way for those who didnt believe in the pagan religion any more to have one god to believe. Your religion says there things humanity is not meant to know which is why religion and science are constantly at ends with eachother. Were not meant to know how the universe began, how the human body works, etc, etc.
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Yes, they refer to the same God in a sense, but the interpretations of God are very different. The Koran says that everyone must be converted are killed. I know that only extreme Musilums follow this, but the point stands: would the God that would send His Only Son to be ruthlessly tourtured mentally, physically, and spiritually, to save ALL mankind, would tell His people to kill? No. God is merciful. He loves all, even if they don't love him. That's right, ResidentAthiest, God loves you.
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I have a quote down on this page from the Qu'ran. its doesnt even mention in the slightest since that you should kill for your god. But like all religions, its contradicts itself. On one side it says to be tolerant of other religions, but also says to praactice every day at converting those who dont believe. But only the extremists practice this, just like only christian extremists kill those in the name of god when there religion forbays killing.
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Give me a reason why you believe God does not exist, I'll show you how your
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Your going to show how my belief is wrong by a simple reason. thats very...high and mighty of you. Have you blessed any sick children lately.
But your question.
God, according to all the interpretations of your god, his god and her god is an all powerful all knowing being who grants free will but your future is already decided for you. Who created us as we all today 10000 years ago (our time) yet every other species on the planet has evolved. Proof of our evolution is lies according to the bible. and this god, who can do anything and everything doesnt lift a finger to help those who pray day and night for help. But thats not the only thing. this god, who CAN, but doesnt, do anything and everything defies the laws of physics simply by his/her/its existance that its impossible. That nothing can create something from nothing. that something can not exist without a reason and have no cause to its creation.
[/quote]Many Christians believe in the Big Bang Theory and the like. We understand that the story of Adam and Eve was writen when people had no concept of billions of years. As God lives in all time and all space, His seven days may be billions of years. All Christains agree that no matter how the would came about, God ordered it that way, and we will never know for sure while on earth how the universe came about.[/quote]
Not all christians believe in the big bang or Adam and Eve is fake. a creationism museam opened up in the states which makes blatent lies about humans living with dinosaurs. Not only is this impossible, but nondeniable proof that your religion is fractured at the seams. that theres too many interprations of the one true religion and god. Christians believe god is right and that he made the universe his way. How else would he have made it, our way?
Evolution and the big bang may not prove how the universe came to be, or if it ever came to be. We dont know if its always was here or if it popped into existance one day. But were looking, were not leaving it up to faith that everything will be explained to us because a book and preachers told us that theres a kingdom of heaven for all believers where we will live in peace and harmony with everything we could ever want.
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Also, you think only ignorant people belive in God? Albert Einstien felt that the more he learned about the universe the more he felt there was some sort of Higher Being in charge of it all.
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Albert Einstien did not believe in the Judeo-Christian god, or the Jewish god for that matter considering he was jewish. He believe that there must have been some sort of a higher being, but in no way was he happy with religion in general. My point still stand, too many interpretations.
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And if you want to talk ignorant, take a look at your own English.
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Are you really going to take a jab at my spelling on an online forum. thats low.
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You obviously don't have a clue what Hell is, do you? It is relentless pain, physically, mentally, and spiritually, FOR ALL ETERNITY.
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According to the religion of the greeks and romans, hell was a place everyone went when they die. where there minds simply existed. it wasnt a place of torment and pain for all eternity.
If your correct that those who dont believe in god cant change there mind after death, than there must be a lot of amazing people in hell with which i can spend my time. Ghandi, Confucious, Ceaser, Plato. Not to mention all the Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayan and my personal favorite, Sun Tzu.
Why would i spend all eternity with those who have lived there life with religion and could have killed in the name of god, because hey, they believed in god, they must be in heaven.
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It does matter. "Instruct the ignorant" is one of the spiritually works of mercy. I would never be able to look anyone in the eye again if I just ignored my duty as a Catholic.
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Only the Ignorant according to you. Would you not also intruct Ghandi to believe in your god. but he's not ignorant. he saved millions of people by leading a peaceful march against the British. People are only ignorant according to your definition of intelligence.
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No true Christain hates. To hate any one of God's cratures is to hate God. The Bible clearly states "Love your neighbor as yourself" "Love your enemy" "Turn the other cheek" and "What you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me" the "me" being God.
If you think Chirstians hate, then, buddy, you don't have a clue what your talking about.
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But those before you have hated the Jewish, the Witches, the Gypsy's, the Gays, the Abortionists, the Pagans. How can you say no christian/Catholic hates when you have waged wars in the name of your god to reclaim the holy land against the muslims?
Does it no also say to stone those who work on the Sabbath (saturday) you might not hate than, but you certainly dont like them when you can stone them. how about loving your father or mother more than god, or turning the other cheek when your brother says to worship another god?
[/quote]I have taken a long, hard look at life. Everything I have been through has strenghten my fatith and given my the knowledge and strenght to debate with you right now.[/quote]
Believe that, but remember. my life and strengthened my resolve that religion is wrong for people, that its kills and destroy's. I have been through plenty to give me strength to denounce god and religion and superstition.
All your life, which you credit towards god, its based of your understanding of life itself. Your experiences taught you to believe in god, but my experiences taught me to believe that maybe theres more to life than simple worship in god. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm right. but i'm going to live my life the way i choose, and not the way some make-believe god and some preacher is going to tell to.