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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
Actually I think biologist are not only assuming this, but with the methods of molecular biology could prove genetically that the one fossil is a later form of the former one in many cases. That goes far beyond simple assumptions.
So setting evolution on the same stage (or anywhere near) creationism lacks any legitimation.
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Alright, it
could, but at this point it still requires assumptions.
[quote=Demarcoa;155270][quote=Troianii;155021]Evolution requires assumptions, just as creationism does. The idea of evolution is that we've found fossils of entirely different species that look alike and change in some order, so we assume that the earlier species became the latter. In Creationism (or ID) we find that all around us the world is telling us that it had been designed. Evolutionists such as Hawkins have recognized this, but have said that the earth is trying to fool us.
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Evolution is far more complicated than that. It has been under the scrutiny of the Scientific Method for years, and biology (as Slartibartfas mentioned) and many other scientific doctrines all lead to this theory. Gravity is as much a theory as evolution, but it isn't very well disputed, is it? Creationism, on the other hand, seems to ignore most of this evidence and rely on what an old book says.
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I never said that evolution is all that simple, I said that (at this point) it requires certain assumptions, and at the present state that is the case.
And there's no need to jump the gun and attempt to refute point I didn't make (but you assumed I had).
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Originally Posted by TeaSea
Assumptions are made by human beings. Evolution does not even require human beings, much less assumptions. The theory of evolution is based on much more than fossil record, especially now that so much more is known about molecular biology, gene mapping, etc. Darwin didn't know about any of that stuff, but by strange coincidence, it all meshes rather well with his theory.
Who is Hawkins? No modern biologist would say that the earth is trying to fool us, as it is not possessed of any kind of intent or caring about anything - although advocates of ID might say such a thing...
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Assumptions are made by human beings, the theory of evolution is made by a human being... BINGO!
And please, don't tell me that you haven't heard of Stephen Hawking?