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Originally Posted by Izzibeth
Well, I meant to say 20-35 years. I don't remember the statistic off the top of my head. Teens do not have more pregnancies (approximately 40% last I checked) and most definitely do NOT have the most abortions. That is a false assumption and/or lie that people have been hearing for quite some time. The face of the average woman who seeks an abortion already has one child, may even be married, and is over the age of 20. The United States abortion rates have been steadily dropping and are now at the lowest they have been since 1976. This is due to the battle to make sexual education and contraception correctly distributed, comprehensive, and available.
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Oh ok, 20-35 years is more reasonable. However, I'm pretty sure that if studies were performed comparing sexually active couples ages 13-17, 18-23, 24-29 and so on, the age group 13-17 would have the most abortions. I think it's important to keep the "sexually active" phrase in play, because roughly half of teenagers have never even had sex, and so it's very unlikely that they'll be sexually active, compared to older age groups.
And the problem with the comparisons between abstinence and contraceptive education is that they compare "abstinence only" to comprehensive programs. The most effective sex ed programs teach both abstinence and contraceptive use, but place the emphasis on abstinence. I don't have the study handy, but that's what I've found and it makes sense to me.
At the same time, you have to bear in mind how disproportionate those numbers are. We're talking about almost 1/5 (more like 1/6) women having abortions being teenagers. Teenagers are 13-18, when you consider how few of them are sexually active, we're talking about about very disproportionate numbers.
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Originally Posted by Izzibeth
Incorrect sexual education would lead people to believe that contraception is a "miracle". It is also incorrect to lie to children and tell them that people are telling them contraception is a "miracle" and "fail proof" and they could always feel secure when using it when no one is saying that.
Contraception is protection. It is not 100% and no one ever tells anyone it is. If used correctly (these are the key words) your chances of getting pregnant and (depending on the method) contracting contagious diseases is lowered not annihilated. Anyone who is going around saying "Well, they're telling you that if you use a condom then you'll never get pregnant but they're liars!" is lying and creating more of a problem because it makes people think that those who are out there to inform and help curb unwanted pregnancy, std spreads, and abortions are the "bad guys".
To use your little analogy..... are you telling me because the guy could get hurt even though he is wearing his protective gear, he should stop using it cuz it's worthless anyway? Cuz that's what the other side sounds like they're trying to say. And if the message is "No, I'm trying to say 'Stay out of the ring'" then once again I have to point out that this is the real world and not a fantasy.
People know they can get pregnant. They is why they use protection. It can still be quite unexpected when it happens especially when someone believes they have done all the right things. Again, I would be fairly shocked if I were to become pregnant right now. I have been on birth control since I was 16 years old and have even doubled-up on occasion. If I were to get pregnant it would be unexpected. And I'm sure I'm not the only female in the United States who has been using birth control methods for over 8 years who would be a little shocked if a test were to come back positive. The positive test does not mean "irresponsibility". It means "life happens" and you have yet more choices ahead of you. Whether they be "What color should we paint the nursery?" or "Am i financially, physically, and mentally capable of continuing with this?"
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In reference to the bold, the best way for the fighter to stay safe is to not get into the ring, he doesn't need to. Besides that, you're taking the respective post far beyond what I said. I didn't say that kids are told to beleive condoms are 100% effective, but the effects are much the same.
If you look on the site below it has rates of effectiveness for preventing unwanted pregnancy. As you'll see, 98% of women who use males condoms perfectly will not get pregnant in a year. However, typical use of male condoms only has an 85% effectiveness. It's not a failure of sex ed, it's simple humanity. People using equipment in the lab will always be more precise than people using equipment in the heat of the moment.
To reiterate the original point, you
Condom Effectiveness
What I'm trying to say is that, while it may come as a shock to a woman who thinks she's having safe sex, the truth is that 15/100 typical users of male condoms become pregnant in a given year, and the rates are much worse for those using female condoms (21/100). That's giving them protection, but the biological purpose of sex is procreation, and even when using condoms that's what sex ultimately leads to. This leads to my comparison with the fighter. The natural purpose of fighting is to inflict pain and wounds, and thus you risk it every time you fight. Even if you use padding for protection, you're still fighting and you're still taking the risk, and while a proffessional boxer might be shocked when he breaks bones or suffers other injuries, it
should not come as that much of a shock.