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Old 02-27-2008, 09:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The thing is, with us Atheists, is we feel that religion is completely wrong, that all the bad in the world was caused by misguided relgious worshippers.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Atheists constantly attempt to use science to rebut religion (something that is impossible and pointless anyway), so they should know that science has been behind the deadliest tools of slaughter and killing ever. Secondly, the notion that religion causes all the bad in the world is absurd. Just absurd. Do you realize that Joseph Stalin, the man primarily responsible for the deaths of roughly 23,000,000 people, was an atheist and ruled the Soviet Union on the principle that religion was to be avoided and purged--resulting in more deatsh? "All the bad in the world" huh? Religion sure didn't cause those 23 million deaths. No, that was the vision of an atheist. So I guess I could apply what seems to be your twisted logic and mass project that over atheism. Atheism is responsible for those deaths--the logic is the same as you claiming religion being responsible for other deaths. Not satisfied? I can go on. Mao Ze-Dong of China is responsible for the worst genocidal death toll in the 20th century--probably ever (49-78,000,000 people dead). Guess what he was? Christian? Nope. Hindu? Nope. Any religion? Nada. He was also an atheist and applied the same forceful anti-religious principles across the board as Stalin had. So which is worse you ask? Well, based on simply two (believe me there are many more), atheism probably squashed religion in terms of "the bad in the world." And if you want to try and back out and claim that those individuals were responsible and not atheism as a whole, well then, unless you apply the same logic to religion, then your argument would be a major hypocritical fallacy.
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religion corrupts and destroys and i despise it, i believe i should spread my opinon about it just as i am force fed religion, just on a lesser scale.
But i don't pretend to be one thing and act another. when i say something i mean it, you won't find my changing my stance on an ideal unless it by further wisdom and age.
Religion corrupts and destroys, huh? But atheism doesn't, huh? Not anything like those two great mass genocidal, murderous, book banning, oppressive, brain-washing regimes that I mentioned... You know... The ones that were dictated by atheists. Atheists who forced atheism on others because of how strong their "opinions" were of it. You talk about being force fed something? Those people had to be atheists living in those countries or they would die. If they practiced any freedom of thought or religion, they were killed. It's disgraceful for you to say you're "force fed" religion. You have no idea the kind of oppression some people have been through because of individuals with misguided mentalities--eerily similar to your self-professed "opinion" and how much you "despise religion." Those dictators despised religion too, and people died for it. So don't blame mass killings or "all the bad on religion." Statements like that are illogical and completely incorrect.
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