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Originally Posted by Nash
if our lif is predetermined then yes we still have free will , because if God laid out two paths for the human being one path leading to good and eventually to heaven, the other path leading to bad and straight to hell, Now God knows what path we are going to choose we are going to choose either one. The path that we choose it is laid out for us, if we want to be a rapist or child molester then that path is laid out for us and all the things that go along with that life style is there for you likewise if you want to be good person that path is laid out for you so ther are many different paths in good and in bad, the free will is that you get to choose the life or the path that you want. Sort of like going to mc donolds the choices are ther for you but only you can pick what you want, will this make me fat?, will i die from eating to much of number 3?, still we make a choice and the options are laid out for us allready.Same when it comes to us ,God has laid out the choices and you are free to choose
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Okay.... I'm going to try this again.
If God is omnipresent and omnipotent... then everything you have ever done and will ever do is predetermined. You never make your own decision because it has already been made well before you were born. If you choose the path of "evil"... you were GOING to 'choose' the path of evil thousands of years before you ever existed. If you choose the path of "good"... you were GOING to 'choose' the path of good before you were a twinkle in anyone's eye. Your choices are PREDETERMINED and therefore out of your control (i.e. beyond any realm of "free will").
If God knows what you are going to do before you do it and has everything planned out then there is NO SUCH THING as free will. Your life is predetermined, your 'choices' are predetermined.. and you have no control over any of it. In essence, there can NOT be an omnipotent & omnipresent God AND a concept of free will at the same time. It is impossible.